You make a good point. Perhaps someone else can take the HOFer away from the Pats and perhaps we can get comparable for less money. But, all things being equal, there's been ZERO drop off in Revis's ability. And, considering how infrequently he's actually tested, the drop off is something I'm not all that worried about. That said, perhaps he is a luxury at this point in the team's development, although if he wanted to come back--which is hardly a certainty, probably a pipe dream really--I think it would be great to have him around, nurturing some of the young'uns, providing Revis Island coverage. The fixation on the money, when we have half a team's salary in cap room, seems penny wise and very Idzik dude!
Ivory will split carries. Murray proved durable through all the onslaught. We would have some young tandem in the backfield. Control the clock, set the tempo and burn defenses with play action. Murray gets to the edge and will run over little brittle corners like Revis. The jets instantly become a smash mouth offense with upgrades at the guard position and acquisition of Murray. It will be the best signing the Jets have ever made, save Martin #28
I have seen a few different reports of this. How is this not tampering if he hasn't been cut yet? Woody better be careful. We probably have no chance of getting him to come back anyway.
I'll put together the list of all backs that have had 350+ carries or 400+ touches in a season and what their careers looked like after that. It's a really ugly list in terms of what they did moving forward. Can't do 350+, too many players on the list to do the numbers. Here are the top 10 carries all time and what the careers turned into afterwards: 1. Larry Johnson (KC) 26 years old. 416 carries in 2006. 158 carries in 2007. 193 carries in 2008. 178 carries in 2009. Done. 2. Jamal Anderson (Atl) 25 years old. 410 carries in 1998. 19 carries in 1999. 282 carries in 2000. 55 carries in 2001. Done. 3. James Wilder (TB) 26 years old. 407 carries in 1984. 365 carries in 1985. 190 carries in 1986. 106 carries in 1987. 167 carries the rest of his career. 4/10a. Eric Dickerson (LA) 26 years old. 404 carries with fairly little impact on his career other than the Rams trading him after the season to the Colts. He was not as good on the Colts but that could have been natural aging. 5. Eddie George (TEN) 26 years old. 403 carries in 2000. 315 carries in 2001 (3.0 yards per carry). 343 carries in 2002 (3.4 yards per carry). 312 carries in 2003 (3.3 yards per carry). 132 carries in 2004 (3.3 yards per carry.) Done. What's notable here is that the Titans kept giving him the ball despite a severe drop in his yards per carry after 2000. He actually had his worst yards per carry to that point during the 407 carry season and then they kept giving him the ball despite the drop. 6. Gerald Riggs (Atl) 25 years old. 397 carries in 1985. 343 carries in 1986. 203 carries in 1987. 113 carries in 1988. 201 carries in 1989. 123 carries in 1990. 87 carries in 1991. 7a. Terrell Davis (DEN) 25 years old. 392 carries in 1998. 67 carries in 1999. 78 carries in 2000. 167 carries in 2001. Done. 7b. Ricky Williams (Mia) 26 years old. 392 carries in 2003. Missed 2004 (probably a drug violation but who knows?). 168 carries in 2005. 6 carries in 2007 (pot is good?). 160 carries in 2008. 241 carries in 2009. 159 carries in 2010. 108 carries in 2011. 7c. DeMarco Murray (DAL) 26 years old. 392 carries in 2014. 10b. Barry Foster (Pit) 23 years old. 390 carries in 1992. 177 carries in 1993. 216 carries in 1994. Done. If you group the backs above into categories I would go with this list: The guys who were basically ironmen and it did not matter that they were overworked - Eric Dickerson, Ricky Williams (the gaps had to be drugs and he played until he was 34.) The guys who carried the load for a year or two and then had serious performance declines for the rest of their career - Larry Johnson, Eddie George, Gerald Riggs, James Wilder. The guys who got blown out by the single season and were never good again - Jamal Anderson, Terrell Davis, Barry Foster. Where DeMarco Murray is on that list is completely unclear at this point.
No, last year we were coming off an 8-8 season and everyone thought having Revis back could make us a 10 plus win team. That is nowhere similar to where we are this off season.
youre right that we have to spend a ton, but we dont have to use all $55 mill of cap space ... i.e. signing bonuses count towards the 89% total, even though, with respect to the cap, they are spread out over the course of a deal dead money ... the 89% over four years refers to cash spent, not cap space used
the NFL stands for "Not For Long", for all we know we could turn it around next season and be a playoff team. we have the pieces i just don't agree with the argument that we shouldn't bring it quality FAs because we didn't contend last year. we have no clue how next year will shape up
to those saying cb is the biggest hole on the team, i disagree ... we have a glaring hole at safety and it looks like pryor is not the single high type that bowles likes to employ mccourty would fill that void at safety and that will make our corners better ... when you factor in the guaranteed money per year, i would absolutely take mccourty over revis
Wtf is wrong with you that you would want a guy that "was the reason" the Pats won the Super Bowl. Your words not mine. Sorry that I don't worship players the way you obviously do. I want a team I can enjoy rooting for and thats not gonna happen with a Pats SB champion on it making 15+ million.
It's unclear how this would be seen in light of a tampering charge. If an anonymous source in the Jets organization actually leaked this it could be construed as tampering. What's interesting is that the tampering case might actually bring some things to light as the NFL conducts the investigation.
Why not look at Revis because you have to weigh ALL options. The I want Maxwell or I want Jackson arguments are great but guess what, the Eagles want Maxwell, plenty of teams want Jackson, fact is if we don't consider Revis then Maxwell, Jackson, Flowers... all sign with other teams and Revis goes to Miami or the Bills then all of a sudden here we are with a boat load of cap space and Cromartie and Milliner as our starting corners. Great idea, super stoked about that. Put me in the pro Revis category.
2. Jamal Anderson tore his knee and missed 1999 season 5. George after 3 more seasons of 300+ carries was done? 6. Riggs left Atl for Washington where he platooned w/ George Rogers 7a. TD had major knee injury in 1999. 7b. Ricky QUIT in his prime Barry Foster was a one year wonder most of these guys started to decline in their late 30s like most RBs, I am not sure what this list really shows us? Curtis had 368 carries his ROOKIE year, had a pretty good career after that.
I would say this is classic media speak. But it doesn't help that our idiot owner actually went on record and tampered. I expect to not get Revis and lose a 7th or some slapdick fine.
1) Emmit Smith (22 years old) 365 carries 49receptions 10 great seasons after 2) Walter Payton (23 years old) 339carries 27receptions 9 great seasons after 3) Barry Sanders (23 years old) 342 carries 41 receptions 7 great season after 4) Curtis Martin (23years old) 368 carries 30 receptions 10 great seasons after 5) LaDainian Tomlinson (22 years old) 339carries 59 receptions 10 great seasons after 6) Jerome Bettis (25 years old) 375 carries 15 receptions 6 great seasons after 7) Eric Dickerson (23years old) 390carries 51 receptions 6 great seasons after 8) Marshall Faulk (21 years old) 314 carries 52 receptions 9 great seasons after 9) Edgerrin James (21 years old) 369 carries 62 receptions 7 great seasons after 10) Steven Jackons (23years old) 346 carries 90 receptions 6 great seasons after Not saying I want Murray taking 300 carries if we sign him, but around 230 range with 40 receptions should be pretty good for him for the next 4-5 seasons. He should have around another 1500+ carries left in the tank maybe closer to 2000. We have a great complement in Ivory and a good scat back in powell. For once the Jets could dominate on offense again. Forget the passing attack, run the ball. Build the Oline, run, play action pass. I formation, split I, single back
I was looking more into this Revis reunion and I stumble across this Gem. It's a "patriots insider" point of view on the situation. http://www.csnne.com/new-england-pa...ts-new-york-jets-darrelle-revis-nfl-tampering
