How is New England even in a discussion for harvin at this point then? Last year they were tanking their entire cap on Revis, this year they can wheel and deal for Harvin? This thread title = poo
Based on his injuries and overall lack of production at a 10 mil level no matter what team he goes to his market value isn't even half that figure. I could see Percy signing for a low basic figure like 3 or 4 with attainable incentives based on playing time and production. On a one year deal.
I am torn between keeping this guy or not. Certainly paying him $10 mil is out of the question, he hasn't proven he can stay on the field to deserve that money. On one hand, he is an explosive player the Jets have lacked since Leon Washington, Santana Moss, etc. But when I think about him being the piece we need to be successful right now? I'd say not really. We are solid in the run game with Ivory back there and with possibly of getting Spiller, I think we need more of a pure receiver rather than a jack of all trades like Harvin. There is a lot of talent in free agency at WR and I think we should look there and the draft to improve the passing game. Let the Pats have him.
Absolutely true, the first part works really well free agents. Then they pick so late, slim wide receivers available.
This is a fantastic "play" on Harvin's part. He knows the Jets are going nowhere fast right now. He essentially states he is not going to take a pay cut to ensure he is a F/A. At that point he can sign anywhere he wants. If I'm him I'd take almost next to nothing to go to a contender like NE to hunt another SB ring, put up huge numbers in that offense and line himself up for a MASSIVE payday in 2016. He's young enough to essentially waste a year. He holds all the cards right now and the Jets have zero leverage.
I remember writing about the thought of us letting HARVIN go and how beastly he would be playing the Welker role in NE. Hope i didn't jynx us
Jets have no leverage except that theyhave him under contract, plenty of cap room and don't have to make a decision until ten days after f.a. starts and the big wave money has been spent. other than that harvin is holding all the cards
In a league/sport where 1 play can mean an entire career. To a player who has not made it through an entire season healthy since his induction in the NFL.
Anyway, peace Harvin you won't be missed. I would rather have Harris back. Bring in D. Thomas or D. Murray; pay the big money to a couple of workers; no more divas
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/24/jets-harvin-will-be-talking-soon/ Seems like Jets will try and get Harvin to convert base salary to signing bonus. He'd still get the same $10.5M this year and it would lower the team's 2015 cap. I'd sign up for this.
This article seems to run somewhat contrary to the OP's Post. "If the Jets keep receiver Percy Harvin on the roster through March 19, the sixth-round pick they owe the Seahawks will escalate to a fourth-round pick. Which means that the Jets need to decide, before March 19, whether to keep Harvin around. Keeping Harvin around under his current contract means paying him $10.5 million for 2015. Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the Jets and Harvin’s agent will be talking soon, with the goal of working out a revised arrangement. If that revised arrangement entails Harvin taking less than $10.5 million in cash this year, look for Harvin to reject it. At most, Harvin likely would agree to converting the vast majority of the salary to a signing bonus, allowing the cap hit to be spread over multiple years and reduced in 2015. While the Jets don’t need to do this, based on a projected cap bulge of more than $50 million even with Harvin’s $10.5 million on the books, it’s a way to make more money available for other players, such as, for example, a possible run at a reunion with Darrelle Revis. If the Jets and Harvin can’t reach a deal, watch these three teams closely: the Chargers, Packers, and Patriots. With any of those, Harvin could do a one-year deal, partner with one of the best quarterbacks in the game, have a huge year, chase a championship, and set himself up for a bigger contract in 2016. The most intriguing team is the one we’ve mentioned multiple times in recent weeks on PFT Live on NBC Sports Radio and Pro Football Talk on NBCSN: The Patriots. As PFT reported back in October, the Seahawks didn’t contact the Patriots about a possible trade for Harvin before dumping him on the Jets. So it’s unknown whether the Patriots would have been interested in adding Harvin to a receiving corps that could use a guy who can stretch the field. Given the friendship between Patriots coach Bill Belichick and former Florida coach Urban Meyer, Belichick becomes the ultimate litmus test for determining whether Harvin can be trusted over the course of a full season. Although Harvin was a model citizen during his extra-large cup of coffee with the Jets, he’s been run out of Minnesota and Seattle for a reason. If Meyer tells Belichick to stay away, that doesn’t bode well for Harvin’s future prospects. Still, the possibility that Harvin could make his way to Foxboro could be enough to get the Jets to find a way to keep him around." http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/24/jets-harvin-will-be-talking-soon
I'll say this, if we draft Kevin White or Amari Cooper, and we shift Harvin to the slot, that's quite the receiving group. How much money would be saved if we convert his money into a signing bonus?
haha, really you are not so torn. i agree with you.....let him walk. he's got all the tools to be an impact player. the type of guy teams will have to game plan around, and can still make plays, while freeing up others to make plays. however, the skills just haven't translated to production, and he hasn't been that difference maker. then throw in attitude problems and injury history, and he's just not worth a big pay day. ironically enough, i do think he's a perfect fit in the Pats short pass offensive approach. no way they give him big money, or much guaranteed. i can see a 1 year, medium dollar, prove it deal. Harvin might take that to pump up his stats for a 2016 payday. they can have Harvin if it means coughing up Revis, who is that consistent impact player. i just hope they don't end up with both..
Than we cut him after the draft and we have secured another option or two. Harvin at this price is worst case scenario.
don't they have to cut him prior to March 19th? i can't see forfeiting a 4th rounder only to release him later.
It depends. For example, they could convert $9M of his 2015 salary into signing bonus leaving his base salary at $1.5M for this year. This would spread out the $9M over the life of the contract. In this scenario, the Jets would gain $9M in cap space for 2015 and could keep Harvin, while he would still get his $10.5M. If the Jets cut him after the 2015-2016 season, they wouldn't have to pay him anything else, but he would count for $3M in dead money for the next three years.
