You also have to give Kraft some credit. He publically backed up his team going into the Super Bowl and was defiant about it. Demanding that the NFL apologize to him. Don't think that showing of support didn't help his team's mindset going into the game. Guilt or innocence wasn't important because it worked and New England won the game. If it had been the Jets it wouldn't have played out like that. Because our owner is only concerned with his image and innocence.
You don't know anything about me so your assumptions are as asinine as the ones about the Colts balls being 13.5 psi pregame. I want to know some real facts about this whole thing. All we have now are a couple of tidbits of confirmed info and a bunch of conflicting reports from second rate reporters that probably can't even spell journalism. I can't imagine any reason why this would need to take over a month but I'm not an investigator. Maybe someone with some experience in that area can shed some light on what could possibly take so long.
hey guys, heres the thing. nobody gives a shit anymore. its the offseason and it will all just wane away because nfl fans have short memories. it will become a non story and then be reported as a passing blah piece in a month and then there will be the draft and nobody will give a shit again. these nfl guys arent stupid. if they gave a fuck they would have dealt with it immediately but they werent going to do that and have all of the drama from both sides come out during stupor bowl prep.
Getting back to Kraft and his angry and defiant denial of all charges. In football and in business we know that the best defense is a good offense. And that the sqeaky wheel gets the oil. And that the people who are the most guilty scream the loudest. Fuck him.
Pats fans and trolls = incest laden offspring gone amuck in society and interwebs Also can be associated with Bob Krafts illegitimate children.......oh the poor children
Just one more thing about Kraft and Belichick. Just conjecture with no proof I know, just an opinion or theory. But not nearly as preposterous as what we're hearing from the trolls. When Kraft says that Belichick has never lied to him I believe him. Kraft knew all about it the entire time. And if he didn't Bill admitted it to Kraft. They have plenty of organizational meetings that Kraft attends and their basic credo, The Patriots Way includes pushing the envelope above and beyond the rule book. They call it taking a competitive advantage. But it's cheating.
Good point. Krafts company non pats employees are involved so you know damn well he knows and signs off on the "cheatriot way"
And what are you exactly? A guy who never posted but was waiting until this scandal to come alive? What a weirdo
Ok - I will add my two cents here. 1. 2 psi drop [that's the most reported] - is it that huge a drop that requires some intentional tampering? We will look into that. 2. Incomplete knowledge - why I am staying [inconclusive] thus far, how the league fumbled it and etc. ----------------------------------------- Without much further ado, here we go. First thing we need to acquaint ourselves with is the fundamental physical law that rules the behavior of the gas, called Ideal Gas Law, and its derived form called Combined Gas Law. In short, given the amount of gas [which stays constant] the pressure, volume and temperature are all tied in this form: PV = nRT where n is the number of gas molecules [in moles] and R is the gas constant. As long as the amount of the gas remains fixed [as in, n does not change] then P, V and T will behave in a predictable way. By isolating n and R on one side, we can arrive this convenient form: PV/T = nR What this means is that, as long as [n] stays constant, we can figure out the way the pressure, volume and temperature behaves. Yes, this is the combined gas law: P1V1/T1 = P2V2/T2 In this situation of the football, we need to make one assumption - which is that, for the consideration of this problem, the football behaves as a rigid container, and its volume does not change. [Unless you get a sizable deflation, this will remain true.] Now - there is a catch. First of all, the pressure reading we received from the press is called [gauge] pressure reading, and not an absolute pressure reading. [And this is what most people think - that's piss-poor job on the reporters.] The difference is - imagine we have a set-up of heated metal ball in a tub filled with water. We can find the temperature of the metal ball in two ways - a. by measuring its temperature directly [with whatever tools you have] or b. find the difference between the temperature of the ball, and the temperature of the water. Choice A corresponds with the [absolute] temperature reading, and choice B corresponds with the [gauge] temperature reading, so to speak. And the analogy holds here too - the reading you have is, sadly, the gauge pressure reading. And you cannot use the gauge pressure reading in ideal gas law, so you need to convert. Another catch is - as with any physical law, you need MKS unit reading - which Fahrenheit temperature reading is anything but. This is because, the absolute temperature is obtained by this formula: K = C + 273.15, and there is no room for F. You would theoretically need Pa for pressure, but we can get by just fine with psi reading, as we know what the atmospheric pressure reading is in psi as well. ============================================================= So, here comes the real meat of the problem. The final assumption here is that, the indoor temperature of Gillette stadium is about 75 degree F, and the playing temperature is about 50 degree F, and the ball was inflated up to 12.5 psi. Then, since we assumed that the volume stays rigid, we can cancel the volume part, and get a simplified form of the combined gas law: P1/T1 = P2/T2 75 degree F ~= 297.04 K 50 degree F ~= 283.15 K P1 = 12.5 psi + 14.7 psi = 27.2 psi Hence P2 [in gauge reading ] = [27.2 * (283.15/297.04)] - 14.7 = 11.22 psi Yes. The temperature drop of 25 degree Fahrenheit will also cause the pressure drop of more than full 1 psi. Since the pressure drop of the ball falls within the natural variance, I don't see why there has to have been a human intervention. It could have happened on its own, as I have shown above. ================================================================ Ok - this is about the [incomplete] knowledge part. In order for us to determine whether there was an intentional tampering, we need another critical piece of information - that is, we need the pressure reading from the Colts balls, before the game and after the game. This is because, given the logic above, we should also see the Colts ball dropping below 12.5 psi threshold. [Even if the ball was inflated up to 13.5 psi, at 50 degree Fahrenheit, the ball will lose a full pound and half of pressure, coming slightly under 12.0 psi. If the ball was not inflated as highly up to 13.5, the ball will come well under 12 psi for sure.] For the complete pictures, we need a lot more information - the pressure reading throughout the day, the temperature inside the facility, the pressure readings from the balls, etc. Since we don't have any of these, we can only make a guess. And unless we can find a sure-fire incriminating evidence, it will have to stay inconclusive. [If the league didn't get the pressure readings from the Colts balls, you will know the league fucked it up fair and square.]
Nobody will deny that Kraft is a great businessman. In all of his enterprises he knows his managers and exactly what's going on. Maybe he didn't know about deflating balls and if he didn't Belichick would have been crazy to lie about it. It's obvious that they have a great working relationship. So both of them are liars.
And my choice is sound to assist in combatting these pats fans here and all over other NFL forums ......its rampant. Almost Ike a lobbying group came calling the week before the SB. It's all Bob Krafts doing. The cheating and the backlash and sending his mindlings out to do his dirty work
Sure all good. Just letting them know we ain't gonna take the cheating......once a cheater always a cheater......they never stopped. On belicheats watch....only it comes to a head when the other teams can't stand it any longer and have to raise it to the league. wbats worse. Goodell is a patsy....full pun intended. he's corruoted and conflicted by Kraft in his ear. His flaunting to roger about the apology is proof of his slight of hand
