And yet again we have problems with reading. Where does it say anything close to what you got out of that article and posted on here? Goes to show people are going to believe whatever they want regardless of the facts
pclfan, you're missing a couple of points - each teams' balls are managed separately pre-game. Each team gets their allotment and preps them the way they want, then they submit them to the ref for his blessing. Belichick even said that NE left instructions for the ref to "inflate to 12.5". There have been no reports about what Indy inflated theirs to or asked the ref to inflate them to. It could easily have been 13.5 a-la Aaron Rodgers (he even said he submits them overinflated). So it's unlikely that the 2 sets of balls were at the same pressure pre-game. Once the ref certifies the balls, they are brought out to the field to each team's bench. - also it's lbs of pressure, not weight. In order to get an exact psi measure, you need to insert a gauge. There's been no statement by the NFL that they used gauges pre-game, but they were very explicit about having used them at halftime and post game. Also, others have said that it's common practice for the ref to just feel the balls pre-game rather than measure each of them with a gauge, and Rogers implied that same thing when he said that often the refs don't catch the over-inflation that he does. - and also nobody has reported what the temp was where the Colts balls were stored pre-game, it's possible they were kept outside or in a colder place, which would diminish the amount they would deflate during the game. BB also described NE's scrubbing process that temporarily raises the psi by about 1.0 There's all kinds of reasons to explain the differences. The bottom line is that the league's processes aren't set up to accurately capture this type of comparative info. They just decided to do this on the fly for the 1st time ever, and stepped into a pile of manure.
Thursday’s stunning admission by Colts G.M. Ryan Grigson that he alerted the NFL to concerns about the inflation of Patriots footballs before the AFC title game made a confusing situation even more confusing. The NFL has insisted, publicly and privately, that there was no sting operation. But if Grigson shared concerns about underinflated footballs with the league office before the AFC title game and if the league office didn’t tell the Patriots about those concerns before the AFC title game, it’s fair to suspect that someone wanted to catch the Patriots in the act. NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent has said that Grigson contacted V.P. of game operations Mike Kensil (pictured) during the AFC championship, after a football that had been intercepted by linebacker D’Qwell Jackson allegedly seemed to be underinflated. That makes Kensil, a former Jets employee with a reputation for having an anti-Patriots bias, a prime candidate to have gotten the phone call from Grigson before the game. What if Kensil decided he was going to handle it on his own, that he was going to catch the Patriots in the act? That would explain the failure of the game officials to make a written record of the PSI measurements of the Patriots and Colts footballs before the game. If they didn’t know that there were concerns about the Patriots’ footballs, they would have had no reason to generate a paper trail. It also would explain the NFL’s strong insistence that there was no sting operation. A sting operation entails coordination and planning; if Kensil got the call from Grigson and Kensil didn’t share the information with his colleagues, Kensil’s goal may have been: (1) to prevent the Patriots from getting a warning about the concerns regarding air pressure; and (2) to nab the Patriots red handed. This doesn’t mean the Patriots are innocent. But given Grigson’s admission and the bizarre tale of footballs being taken from the game for private sale, it’s obvious that the NFL will indeed need clear, hard proof of tampering in order to justify punishing the Patriots. The chain of custody is far too sketchy and the security procedures for the footballs are far too incomplete to justify a finding that mere evidence of underinflation means that Patriots are guilty of tampering. While circumstantial evidence has sent many a man to prison, the circumstances in this case have become far too complicated to permit a conclusion of cheating, absent a smoking gun or a confession. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/20/grigsons-admission-puts-kensil-under-more-scrutiny/
Please read these excerpts from this ESPN article. Again this is what deflategate is all about.: The NFL has found that 11 of the New England Patriots' 12 game balls were inflated significantly below the NFL's requirements, league sources involved and familiar with the investigation of Sunday's AFC Championship Game told ESPN...The investigation found the footballs were inflated 2 pounds per square inch below what's required by NFL regulations during the Pats' 45-7 victory over the Indianapolis Colts, according to sources...League sources have confirmed that the footballs were properly inspected and approved by referee Walt Anderson 2 hours and 15 minutes before kickoff, before they were returned to each team...ESPN Sports Radio 810 in Kansas City reported that the Patriots' footballs were tested at the half, reinflated at that time when they were found to be low, then put back in play for the second half, and then tested again after the game. The report did not reveal the results of the test following the game. All of the balls the Colts used met standards, according to the report.
1) This report (11 balls, 2 PSI) has been disputed by many many sources 2) This still doesn't say anything about the Colts balls being the same as they were when they started. Please learn how to read.
Before Belichick's ridiculous science project presser when he made a total fool out of himself (again) don't you think the Patriots front office personnel (like college interns) called every scientist in the country to get the exact spin they wanted. I'm sure that included a generous Kraft donation to the schools or scientists that backed him up. If they're so innocent why go through this type of defending one selves.
Balls weighed before the game by head ref...weight was equal as verified by head ref...given over to respective teams...all balls weighed at halftime...11 out of 12 Patriots balls about 2 pounds under prescribed weight...no Colts balls under weight...balls were then re-inflated...this is what deflategate is all about. Not any of this sidebar nonsense you idiots are trying to introduce to distract the entire incident. If this were the Jets I wouldn't be defending them and spending hours online looking for loopholes to exonerate my team. I wouldn't give a fuck. Let Kraft's lawyers go down that path. What do you care. You still need a hundred bucks to get into Foxboro.
I just quoted an article that says everything. If you are a lawyer maybe you can find a loophole in it because it's just a piece of journalism not a legal document. It says the head Ref inspected the balls before the game. So I would assume that means they were ok. And equal for both teams or else they wouldn't have been given over to the Colts and NEP. Why would the ref do that if the balls were not equal. You have to use your common sense but since you're looking for a way out of this you can attack the language just like Aaron Hernandez's lawyers are doing.
There is a pretty big difference between saying: -Only NE balls were deflated vs. -Only NE balls were below the minimum threshold Let's see if you can figure it out
there is? isn't that just semantics? its like saying: "There's a big difference between saying: -Only O.J. Simpson murdered his wife in cold blood vs. -Only O.J. Simpson's wife ended up deceased by his hands."
Why don't you read the entire thing. About Colts balls it says: All of the balls the Colts used met standards, according to the report. As for before the game. The balls were approved before game time by the head Ref. So if not equal why would he approve them. Or do you have to have that in writing. If not then not guilty.
Not semantics. The implication is that NE intentionally let air out of its footballs while the Colts did not. The reality is that all the footballs could have decreased in pressure, equally, because of the temperature, and the result could have been that the NE balls dropped below the threshold pressure while the Indy balls did not. Because there is no log of the inspection (starting) pressure, all the rest of it is speculative BS.
I thought you might be trolling the trolls, but now I'm not sure. I think you just might be really dumb. Unclear. More info needed. Please keep posting... I can't imagine there are even any Jets fans on here who would defend the stuff you're saying. Let's spell this out for you, kindergarten-style: "Both teams balls being cleared pre-game does not mean they were same psi pre-game" We good?
You don't have to be a lawyer to realize that does not mean they weighed the same when the standard is a 1 PSI range. Logically, stay with me here, the PSI could have been different yet still within the range. Does that make sense?
