Deflate-gate

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  1. New England Patriots

    New England Patriots Well-Known Member

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    Your outrage that people aren't "reading the rule" loses all credibility when you decide not to read the memo that NFL sends to players that specifically says stickum is illegal.

    But then again, credibility isn't really your thing.
     
  2. joe

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    Women and children can be careless. The Patriots cannot.


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  3. JStokes

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    That's what I've been saying!

    Back on topic trolls.

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  4. Unhappyjetsfan

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    Yes it does ... and then the NFL Rulebook expressly says (paraphrase) "but there's an exception for tacky substances used on gloves". Also, I'm not outraged; I find the Cheaties fans as a whole to be hilarious - everything you care about was shattered because Brady opened his big mouth and mocked Harbaugh for not knowing the rulebook and the rest of the league said "oh yeah?!?"

    Oh, btw, here's the rule (again):

    (i) Adhesive or slippery substances on the body, equipment, or uniform of any player; provided, however, that players may wear gloves with a tackified surface if such tacky substance does not adhere to the football or otherwise cause handling problems for players.
     
  5. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    fixed that for ya..
     
  6. CJLang

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    From MMQB -
    Rice’s admission, on an ESPN feature in January, that he used Stickum during his NFL career on his already-tacky gloves. Stickum was banned by the league in 1981, and Rice’s NFL career began in 1985. As he said in the ESPN piece: “I know this might be a little illegal, guys, but you put a little spray, a little Stickum on [the gloves] to make sure that texture is a little sticky.”

    His rookie year before he wore the gloves, he had a lot of issues with dropping passes.
     
  7. Unhappyjetsfan

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    If you're looking for me to defend Peter King's reporting, you're looking in the wrong spot. I have stated several times in the thread that I find it ridiculous that the media makes no effort to read the rulebook. The rulebook publicly available and is clear.

    (i) Adhesive or slippery substances on the body, equipment, or uniform of any player; provided, however, that players may wear gloves with a tackified surface if such tacky substance does not adhere to the football or otherwise cause handling problems for players.
     
  8. CJLang

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    He was already wearing tackified gloves! He also put stickum on it, which is illegal. How dense are you?
     
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    Back on topic....
    11 Pats balls are deflated, for the first half only

    No Colt footballs deflated

    CHEATRIOTS CHEATED

    TAINTED SBs, ALL OF THEM!
     
  10. Unhappyjetsfan

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    The rulebook expressly makes an exception for tacky substances on gloves:

    (i) Adhesive or slippery substances on the body, equipment, or uniform of any player; provided, however, that players may wear gloves with a tackified surface if such tacky substance does not adhere to the football or otherwise cause handling problems for players.

    If you are wearing gloves, and you put a tacky substance on them (be it Stickum or any other substance) and that substance does not leave residue on the ball (or another player), then you have not violated the NFL's rule on adhesive substances. If you put two different tacky substances on the gloves, you have not violated the rule (assuming no residue). If you put 37 different tacky substances on the gloves, you have not violated the rule (assuming no residue). Sorry, read the rule. Unless you have some evidence that Rice was using the substance somewhere other than gloves, or evidence that residue was being left on the ball, he was not in violation of the rulebook.

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    If you're argument had any merit, the league would have fined the Chargers for using the Gorilla Gold towels with the sticky powder on them. Instead, the league expressly stated the towels (and the tacky substance) was legal.

    Regardless, how does the NFL's rule on adhesive substances change the Patriots' culpability for cheating? (the topic of the thread).
     
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  11. JStokes

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    It doesn't.

    It's a ruse, a slight of hand, an attempt to deflect the attention away from the Patriots cheating.

    It's The Patriot Way.

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  12. Burning Elvii

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    Bill is holding his autobiography, see left
     
  13. BeastBeach

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    Because those towels were provided from the company with that material already on them. And guess what? After that incident the nfl banned them for the remainder of the season
     
  14. Unhappyjetsfan

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    "Following a review of the San Diego Chargers use of towels that included an adhesive substance in an October 15 game against the Denver Broncos, the NFL has determined that the club did not violate a competitive rule by use of the towels." - NFL League Office, Nov 7, 2012
     
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    So, about those deflated footballs
     
  16. Unhappyjetsfan

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    Exactly.
     
  17. Burning Elvii

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    When do you think we will hear something, been awfully quiet now for the past 8 days
     
  18. JStokes

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    Between April 30 and May 2.

    In Chicago.

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  19. Burning Elvii

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    It will be like 3 short sentences
     
  20. BeastBeach

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    Like I said...
     
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