Instead of coming on this board and calling the inhabitants idiots (even though in many cases accurate) why not just go back to your cave and rejoice with your fellow Cheaters fans over your tainted SB victory. This is not the Aaron Hernandez case. (another embarrassing saga in Patriots history that they also try to disown because they knew the guy was bad news yet signed him to an extension-Kraft will deny that, too). You don't have to present us any evidence of your team's innocence which most people around the country think of as a joke. I prefer to think the worst of your team. So even 100% bonafide evidence will not change my opinion. But in this case the evidence is: Guilty as charged.
I was honest-to-god trying to just have a discussion on where the line is drawn in the NFL historically... and as I mentioned numerous times, I was including the Patriots as guilty (spy-gate) and possibly guilty (deflate-gate). But screw it. None of you guys even want to discuss it. You just want to use clever terms like "Cheatriots" ad nauseaum. So, I'll drink up your tears and bathe in the hate... re: the bolded part.... I've already said if evidence comes out they cheated, they should be punished. If you would, please point to the concrete evidence you cite? Not a tweet that has been back-pedaled, but some concrete evidence... I'll wait (patiently, most likely, since the evidence you will throw out is likely to be "but, but the Colts balls were fine" - which as has been discussed numerous times, doesn't mean anything if they started with their balls towards 13.5-14 psi (like Aaron Rodgers would).
For someone who wants to embrace the hate, you are kind of a whiny bitch about the whole thing. Why don't you just go away?
Not whiny at all. Quite enjoying this actually. I was interested how deep and blinding the hatred of the Patriots was, due to their being so dominant for so long (we've seen this numerous times in all sports - hate being caused by greatness)... and it is alarming how much you all despise them for winning. I mean, <cough> for *cheating. So, yes, I will embrace the hate. It's just so much more hate than I ever could have imagined.
You have about as much chance of pleading your case here as Mia Khalifa does spreading her legs for ISIS. Except she would probably dig it. Maybe you do, too. Fuck you guys go back to troll town.
So, you don't have any concrete or substantiated evidence? Would have taken less time to just say so.
The NFL is turning this into Watergate. They have a self inflated (not deflated) vision of themselves. What's the big deal already shit or get off the pot. Maybe the holdup is Roger's trying to kiss Kraft's ass. I only wish the worst for your organization.
Oh no! A brand new Cheaties troll entered a 195 page thread and demanded the entire thread be litigated to his satisfaction - what will we ever do?!? It will take so long and be so boring and tiresome (like most Patriots cheating scandals). We can't "win"! *Sigh* ... or ... Alternatively, we could ignore the troll's plea to treat this like a game ... ignore him altogether ... and continue the discussion from right where it was when he entered the conversation and started desperately trolling: The Pats cheated, all of their championships are tainted, their entire franchise is for the most part a disgrace, particularly Belichick, Brady and Kraft, and nobody expects the league to do a thing about it because Goodell only has his job because Kraft got it for him and is, therefore, in the tank for the Patriots franchise. Further, as badly as Cheatriot fans would like to use it as an excuse to deflect from their own cheating, what Rice did is expressly allowed by the NFL rulebook and, therefore, not cheating. Next.
This is what's going on......they're going to do their best to dismiss it as easy as can. But I want everyone to write a letter to Goodell in NY, that email addy is public and express your disdain for the NFL. If they sweep it under, the other 31 owners are complicit in allowing all this cheating to happen, Kraft is outspoken in the league but he's a new owner.....he gets way too much input for his relationship with the TV guys (CBS backroom), they don't care about any shield or integrity, the only integrity is how many zero's can be added. Be prepared to switch off the NFL if we dare, only way to hurt them is to stop patronizing them and their sponsors. Hurt them where they brazenly thumb their nose.....the customers.
This is either a really bad joke or massively naive. The last time we all waited for the "facts" the Commisioner of the NFL confiscated all of the evidence and destroyed it before anyone could see it. That can only lead to ONE conclusion- that what was on those tapes was so much worse, inflammatory and evidencing incontrovertible guilt than any of us were told. We've learned "waiting for the facts" really means Goodell is busy covering up the Patriots cheating. There is no discussion needed, really. Just trolling and outward finger pointing. _
Every team message board the pats fans are looking for validation yet again with the 'everyone does it' stance. Pats fans need to accept that when the other 31 fanbases hate you and say your accomplishments are tainted for good cause......accept it and deal with it. Look how bad Cleveland is and continues, they try to get better, what are they doing to try to get ahead??? CHEATING. Pats did this when BB came over and Kraft brought him back. BB is a hack at best, his genius lies in 2 things......Ernie Adams, and Cheating!!
Yes, send those emails. That should do the trick. Dear Mr. Goodell, This is Burning Elvii. Me and my pals over at Gang Green (JStokes and Dierking, among others) want to make it abundantly clear that there is no other possibility in our minds than the Patriots must have cheated. How else have they been able to dominate us for 15 years? It can't be due to better talent/coaching/ownership. So, we know it. Therefore, you must know it. Let it be known that we do not care about facts or evidence. There need be none cited for your punishment, since we realize at this point, nothing other than some back-tracked/completely amended tweets supports the cheating allegations. Guilty until proven innocent we say! But, hear us loud and clear. Ignore us, and We will stop patronizing you. And your sponsors. We will also hurt your customers (? that's what it says above ?). Godspeed Roger. Sincerely, B.E.
It was damning for the entire NFL cash cow.....which proves my point that the other owners may be complicit in this 'legitimate (sports) entertainment empire'. We're being duped, everything has a predefined outcome to a certain degree. Time to cash out of the NFL. Pigs get Fat, Hogs get slaughtered
Trolls will burn. Guess what.....i am a visitor here to bang my drum at your cheating franchise and brainwashed fans. My team is better than yours by the way. I will await the full evidence, but i do not have any faith things will be done on the up and up. Too much collusion, conflict of interest and money.....corrupt as it ever can be. The 32 owners are said to be the most powerful and influencial men in the US, why do you think the Anti trust wont be revoked.
I'm not writing a letter to anyone esp. Goodell. I know where it would end up. Besides I don't care about the NFL I just like the Jets and football. I could give a rat's ass about the NFL. I don't relate to any of those guys, the billionaire owners are not my role models. All; they reek of is mismanagement. And elitism. OK I don't like the 1%. No wonder Woody was a big backer of loser boy Mitt Romney.We know what him and Woody think about the other 99%.
If the Jaguars had cheated they'd be in London now. Belichick cheats and suddenly every radio station is 'PEDs, pinetar and stickum is cheating too." So is betting on baseball and Watergate if you're in those selected professions. So Pats fans, justify those to me too. Because once one person gets away and it's alright. Then a little for all is fine. Right?
if you don't care about the NFL, the Jets are part of this shit show. All 32 teams are. So just worrying about NYJ and seeing how the rest of the operation has been turning out on the whole, you'll see it a different way. I've been watching NFL for 40+ years..... my opinion has def changed.
