I think the Texans already have a developmental QB in Tom Savage - they will prob look to see what he has. Mallett might see a better opportunity with the Jets and sign w/ them for a decent price. I don't think this becomes a bidding war like you think it will.
I don't get this fascination with Simms. I think if anything Mallett is coming here to compete for the starting QB job. I don't know if the Jets can get a Cutler type QB, but while we are here getting the team back to standards - nothing wrong with seeing what potential a player like Mallett has. If I had it my way, I would sign 2 QBs cut Simms and let Geno be the 3rd string. Mallett and a Shaun Hill like QB. You got a guy that could blossom as a QB given good coaching (Mallett), a veteran QB (Shaun Hill) and finally a developmental QB in Geno Smith.
If he is injury prone, I don't think it matters how cheap he is. That said, if he can stay healthy, he could be cheaper than Shaun Hill or Matt Moore (and they may not be available anyway), and with what they save, they could possibly sign another 2nd tier FA to shore up another position or at least increase competition at that position. If Mac things Mallett is worth it, I have no problem with him bringing Mallett in, but I'd feel more comfortable with Moore or Hill. IMO if they bring in Mallet, then they believe they can fix Geno and turn him into a quality QB in Gailey's system; otherwise, they'd bring in Moore or Hill who are more likely to beat out Geno and turn the ball over less.
Finally something we agree about regarding the QB position! I agree that if Mallet comes here, it's to compete for the starting position, but I think that means that they think Geno will win the competition, and therefore, they think they can turn him into a serviceable, if not quality, QB. If they have no intentions of starting Geno, then they'll sign a QB like Matt Moore or Shaun Hill, or Ryan Fitzpatrick if he becomes available.
Hahah yeah who would have thought! I guess it's because Simms looks good throwing the ball, people love a QB with a cool looking release lol. If the Jets draft a QB, they should still look to acquire a vet to hold it down. The options available in FA aren't attractive, but they are sufficient for the time being until we get that guy and that guy is ready. At least there are options though.
Ftr I don't have any stock invested in Simms, but I do think the prior regime did not give him a fair shot. Given the overall situation, though, the Jets should try and develop for the future, if they can, but in the short run get some vet who is a reasonable prospect to perform better as the starting Qb for the coming season, compared to Smith. Mallet I thnk is hard to see as that vet player. He's really more a development project, or more accurately a see what he can do player. I disagree with your take on Mariota, and he is a relevant consideratoin to this discussion. But imo I don't think it matters since I don't see him faling to 6. That being the case, and grudgingly admitting that Smith's contract does not play into this as a major factor suggesting he be cut, perhaps the best the Jets can do here is get BOTH Mallet and someone more likely to start, retain Smith and Simms going into camp, and let the chips fall where they may with a real competition. I still would like to see Cutler obtained, btw. If hten the Jets do have the ability to draft Mariota, which they will if they do (imo even if they obtain Cutler or Bradford - only a trade for Foles and other compensation would mean they don't get him if he falls to 6), then probably Simms gets cut and Smith and Mallet fight it out for the 3 spot.
One takeaway of this report (if accurate) is that the Jets want to bring in strong-armed, tall pocket passers. They are moving away from the Vick/Kaepernick type guy. Which is a good thing as the only guy that has proven success with it is Russell Wilson.
I hope he's not going to be considered the veteran competition for Geno in camp. I don't mind looking under rocks and shaking trees but like other posters have mentioned, he's done nothing worth mentioning in this league.
He could beat out Geno I mean anything is possible. But Mallett hasn't done jack shit in the league for me to assume it's a forgone conclusion. I'm definitely open to bringing in Mallett to compete with Geno.
I think Simms stock is at an all-time low. Simms didn't prove much when he got the oppurtunity IMO, we can blame the lack of practice reps, but there was nothing special about Simms when I saw him play. I think if someone saw something special in Simms, he would have been scooped up when he was on the practice squad. I think Mallett is a QB that you can play right now, he doesn't need to sit - you can throw him out there and see what he can do with decent offensive weapons. I see Mallett as more of a stop-gap then a developmental QB, if he thrives with the Jets then well then his prospects change. He's a wait and see guy, which pretty much you said, so I think we are in agreement with that. In regards to Mariota, I don't really want to go too much in depth about him because it's going to spark a totally different discussion - I think people already know my stance on him as a prospect. I think Mariota will be OTC @ 6 if no one trades up for him. I don't think he's a good fit in TN (TN runs a vertical offense and that does not taylor to Mariota's strengths), and to be honest if I had to look at the top 6 teams - the Jets with Chan Gailey he seems to be the best fit in regards to the offense ran. If Mariota gets drafted, then we absolutely need a veteran QB on the team. Should be interesting where he falls in the depth chart, I would prob redshirt him the first yr and put him 3rd on the depth chart. I wouldn't mind seeing a combination of Mallett / Geno / Mariota for the first yr. Even better if it's Cutler, then you got Cutler / Geno / Mariota. Cutler, Bradford, Mallett - I would like for that contract to be a 2 yr deal. I think Simms is gone regardless of any outcome.
What has Geno done? He hasn't done jack shit either. He "earned" a starting job on the Jets. LOL, I wouldn't be all that surprised. I don't think we had any major philosophical differences in regards to building THIS football team. Different ways to get there - but that's OK by me.
My take is that if you're throwing shit at the wall at QB, you're likely only going to get shit to stick. So where does that leave the Jets this year? First, I'm ignoring Mariota and Winston in the sense that you only take either of these guys if they are available AND the FO feels they have real franchise QB upside. Whether that answer is yes or no, either way the team is going to want a starter for 2015 and an opening day starter for 2016. So these guys fall into a different discussion. As for 2015 starters, simply, how likely is it that they will be significantly better than Geno Smith? I say significantly since in theory Geno has upside. I don't want Brian Hoyer so we can get two less interceptions and two more touchdowns over the course of an entire season and then miss out on the potential. My opinion is that Sam Bradford is the best fit for the Jets. Immediately the down side is his injury history without question. What are the mitigations for this risk? 1) Backup QB: we have Geno Smith. Problem solved. 2) Contract: teams don't screw themselves by paying players a lot of money, but rather by committing a lot of guaranteed money that could potentially become dead money. So, I pursue Bradford on the premise that I'm willing to pay him starting QB money on a short term deal with little to no guaranteed money. Establish a contract that creates little risk to the salary cap, and get the highest potential QB available today. The benefits are: most likely to improve the team immediately. Most likely to win immediately. Not crushing to the cap if it doesn't work out. With Geno around, this avenue makes the most sense to me. Worst case scenario, Geno ends up back on the field due to injury, and we are in the same place as we would have been starting with Hoyer or Mallet. Best case scenario, Bradford stays healthy and we have a very similar situation to when Testaverde joined the Jets: An extremely talented QB that the league had essentially given up on. I know their paths were different. I think the effect could be the same. I would NOT support Bradford on a long term contract and/or for a lot of guaranteed money. On a short deal though, who has more potential to be lightning in a bottle? I don't see anyone that will be available this offseason. Glennon is my second choice behind Bradford, but not close.
Mallett never had the opportunity until last yr. Geno was given the job. Anyways, they both haven't done much if anything at all. Mallett could very well win the job - you never know. Worth the chance.
It certainly couldn't hurt to look at him. The one thing I'm sure about for next season is that if Geno Smith isn't the answer early on it's time to move on. If the QB isn't part of the solution he's definitely one of the biggest parts of the problem.
