Well, that's not what you said. You stated that Mariota CAN'T make throws in tight windows.. that is incorrect. But regardless I do believe that his accuracy is inconsistent. ..
IF! HUGE IF. Playing the IF game is fun. To win in the NFL QB, what must you do? Potential, a very dangerous word to use.
I saw that one gif, I never saw that game - I don't think he can at the next level where the defenders are faster, and defenses are smarter. That's what I saw against a good defense.
It's only not an exaggeration if you feel all QB prospects have to "learn to play NFL QB". You are singling out Mariota.
It's all about what skill-sets you have now and how they translate to the NFL level. Mariota, will need to start from scratch, learn the fundamentals and learn to win w/in the pocket. The style Mariota plays now, it's not going to work. He's not going to make it. Yes, I am singling out Mariota, because he's not the guy you think he is. I got Stokes over here saying he's a mobile Eli Manning ... how can I take you guys seriously if you throw out these shitty comparisons?
Every NFL player ever drafted was once an IF. Mariota has immense potential to work with along with his work ethic, football iq and elite intangible he is a safe gamble.
What is a safe gamble? It's either a safe pick, or it's a gamble. Can't have it both ways. I think the term you are looking for is boom or bust. I'm not going to knock his ethic and football IQ never did - that is established. If I never seen someone do something, I am not going to assume he can do it because he's smart. That again, is blind faith - something you guys seem to share. The road for Mariota will be a tough one, it won't be as easy as you think.
So Cook needs to fix his basic footwork-footwork that's been ingrained in him since 7th grade. Mariota needs to show he can take snaps from center, learn 3 5 7 drops. That he's worked on every offseason since 7th grade. Superior talent with a learning curve coupled with a massive work ethic. Inferior talent with a few snaps against 20 year olds. I'm going with the superior talent. _
If we get Mariota, I hope you guys know I will root like hell for him to succeed. If he becomes the guy you guys think he will become, I have no issue eating crow because we'll be winning games, BUT if he doesn't don't say I didn't tell you so.
You can't take me seriously because Stokes compared Mariota to a mobile Eli Manning? BTW here's what I wrote about Mariota in response to some question posed about Mariota. As you will read, I do not think Mariota is the perfect prospect. He sees the field but does not anticipate well thus far in his development. For the basis of comparison, he sees the field better than Geno but struggles with anticipating just the same though he has a much quicker release which compensates a bit for the lack of anticipation. Mostly all of Oregon's reads are simple and meant to be quick. For the reads he is asked to make, he makes them quickly. Yes and yes. Very rarely does he force the ball so very rarely does he fail in that department which is I think both good and bad. Good in that he is careful with the ball. Bad in that it speaks somewhat to his sub par anticipatory skills. Windows get even tighter in the NFL, he's yet to display the willingness and ability to get the ball in those small areas through arm strength and anticipation. EDIT: I think a more athletic Alex Smith is his floor. Not sure what his ceiling is because I can't think of any other QB hat has been able to put it all together while possessing his rare combination of size, athletic ability, arm talent and intangibles. If he pans out, the sky is the limit really.
Cook has improved each yr as a starter - again Cook's road to being a good NFL is far shorter then Mariota because of what he already knows. You don't know what Mariota and Cook learned as 7th graders so again the blind faith argument stands true. Already stated Mariota has more potential, but again that's a dangerous word to use. Talent doesn't always win in the NFL.
What don't you get about every prospect in NFL draft history being a gamble? They all are, some less than others. I don't think Mariota is boom or bust, far from it. Of course the road will be tough for Mariota, again just like every college player that has ever entered the NFL.
Some folks would prefer an inferior talent that's taken a few snaps from under center as a 20 year old against other 20 year olds. Mariota CAN'T learn the pro game because while he's excelled at EVERYTHING else he's ever tried, he can't do something he's never been asked to do. _
IDK about this, seems you guys agree on everything possible. Not trying to turn anyone against anyone else, but to me - it appears Mariota can do no wrong at the next level according to you guys. There's no such thing as a sure gamble dude. That makes no sense. He's either a safe pick or he's a gamble - so tell me which is it? Name me an example of a "safe gamble?" Not every player is a gamble. Was Nick Mangold a gamble? There was nothing wrong you could say about Nick Mangold prior to the draft. What about Revis? Not every player is a gamble, some players are a sure thing right from the start. I don't want to say his name, but Andrew Luck, that ain't no gamble bro. Some roads are longer then others btw.
LMAO a few snaps. It's not about who you play against, it's can you show the ability to perform a specific function. Go take your Eli Manning comparisons elsewhere.
Cooks "improvement" hasn't been that impressive. And I don't CARE about how short the road is. I care about how HIGH the road goes. Cook will be a limited middle of the road at best QB. He may get to that road quickly, but he'll never be elite. I want elite. I don't care about day 1. It's a stupid measuring stick. _
Dude you said it yourself, you didn't watch Cook play that much. How do you assess someone you've rarely seen play? MM may never reach average if he doesn't have GREAT coaching in a GREAT scheme to taylor his needs. I care about day 1 and everyday afterwards - like I said you need to start somewhere.
Well I never said a sure gamble, I said a safe gamble. There is no such thing as a sure thing, just stop. Some are closer than others, like Luck was probably the closest to a sure thing as it gets but they don't come around very often. Yea Revis was a gamble, so was Mangold both safe gambles. Mariota to me is a safe gamble, I see very little bust potential and if all goes well elite potential.
The VY comparisons are valid. Remember to read my entire posts, I never said anything about football IQ or leadership - Spread offense - Very accurate on short passes - Mobile I didn't compare Cook to Wilson, read my post previously - if you don't complete 60% of your passes you can still be a good NFL QB. They play nothing alike, but you keep on digging. Mariota's floor IMO is VY (maybe not as clutch). His ceiling is Steve Young. Comprehend bro. I know you can do it.
