Exactly. Fucking cheaters. Grasping at straws. First it was everybody does it. Then it was the refs fault. Then it was "we know noTHINK". Then it was the atmospheric conditions on only one side of the field. Then it was a ball boy. Now it's "you can't PROVE we cheated". 12 balls 2 psi under. 12 balls at regulation psi. Fucking cheaters. Poof. _
Lol so Belichick is the "great" innovator and originator. In offense, defense and chicanery. Except one thing: the dufus gets caught. And has been in at least 2 national scandals embarrassing the league and his team. He also embarrassed himself and the Jets when after accepting the head coaching job quit the next day and at the presser to announce his hiring. What a genius. When in reality, not that smart!
While I agree this is pretty much non-news, you can almost feel the nervousness in the tone of these responses. It will be OK, guys. You will probably be able to use this to justify the success of the Patriots over the last 15 years. No need to be so defensive about it.
Try to keep up. The discussion is about footballs that were inflated to the league mandated level of between 12.5-13.5 PSI, which then changed hands going to the Patriot ball boy and then were deflated between 1-2 PSI below the league low threshold of 12.5 PSI. The 2 PSI being what was reported and the 1 PSI the number which the Pats fans throw around. Either would still be below the 12.5 PSI whereas the Colts balls in the same environmental conditions were still legal.
troll you team cheated ever hear the saying no news is good news? I think they are waiting for the end of the seasson before bring the whip down. except this time they have a fall guy in the ball boy who we are suuposed to believe did all this on his own. only morons and cheater fans believe that
the same environmental conditions didn't cause 12 reinflated balls to lose pressure in the second half either. just to clarify.
Full circle now..... Here is the full story: “Once with the Jets, Belichick was again officially named the defensive coordinator and assistant head coach. Things started to click again and the Jets began winning. The Bills (Belichick and Parcells) had the Jets rebounding from a 1 win, 15 loss season in 1996. At the end of the 1999 season, Parcells once again stepped down as head coach, claiming this time he was retiring from coaching for good. He had assured Jets ownership that Belichick would assume head coaching duties, with Parcells sticking around in an advisory role. However, Belichick had grown weary of the “Big Tuna” and was tired of Parcells’ bombastic personality and razor-sharp tongue. There was a particular incident during a Jets game when the two men had disagreed about the use of a blitz. When Belichick was proven to be correct, Parcells reacted most unprofessionally. Instead of being pleased that the play worked out for the team, Parcells barked into an open mike, “Yeah, you’re a genius, everybody knows it, a goddamn genius, but that’s why you’ll never be a head coach…. Some genius.” 1 Naturally, Belichick was looking to get out from under Parcells’ oppressive regime.” “In February 2000 the Jets called a press conference to announce Bill Belichick would be replacing Parcells as their new head coach. What ensued is one of the most awkward press conferences in NFL history. Belichick had accepted the job as head coach in principle the day prior; the press conference announcement was for the media, merely a formality. Before the assembled press and Jets brass, just as Belichick was about to take the podium, he scribbled on a piece of loose paper: “I resign as HC of the NYJ” and handed it to Jets management. 2 He then proceeded to give a long-winded speech about his overnight decision to pass on the “HC” position. This performance could only be described as bizarre by those in attendance. 3 Waxing on about ownership uncertainty and a list of irrelevant notions, Belichick bid farewell to the Jets, as Parcells sat there, slack-jawed. Jets management, fans, and Parcells were blindsided by this bombshell. Kraft had gotten his revenge. In a move that was decidedly not coincidence, the Patriots fired their head coach Pete Carroll just days prior, leaving the spot wide open for Belichick. When asked where he would coach the next season, Belichick calmly responded with, “I haven’t really thought about it.” 3 After pondering his future for what seemed like eleven seconds, Belichick accepted the Patriots head coaching position. At this point, the Jets naturally claimed tampering. An NFL team cannot hire away a head coach from another NFL team while that coach is under contract. Since the Jets had elevated Belichick, he was effectively their head coach, if only for one day. In the end, once again, Commissioner Tagliabue agreed that the Patriots should give up a first round draft pick in 2000 in exchange for the right to hire Belichick. Belichick would bring along Charlie Weis as offensive coordinator, Eric Mangini as defensive backs coach, and Scott Pioli as assistant director of player personnel. Romeo Crennel would follow them in 2001, as New England’s defensive coordinator. In light of the Super Bowl wins, and then the Spygate cheating scadal, it is safe to claim there is a lot of bad blood between the New York Jets and New England Patriots. That might even be putting it mildly” Excerpt From: O'Leary, Bryan. “Spygate The Untold Story.” KLR Publishing. iBooks.
I don't remember saying anything different from what I said last Weds. That there were enough hard interviews out there to know the whole pre-game check doesn't always happen, so it seemed perfectly plausible that this didn't. Hasn't every leaked "report" been debunked or partly debunked in fairly short order afterward? I'm starting to not understand the level of anger involved. The truth is whatever it is, nothing anyone says - no level of anger changes that.
Yeah I don't understand the hysteria and level of anger getting ratcheted up except for they maybe see that this thing has slipped away from them or something? Anyone who doesn't think the Patriots cheated without any evidence is apparently a troll also.
The official report was. They checked both teams balls. All in compliance before game time , protocol is pass /fail......fix the ones at fail.....no logging of the psi's on pregame balls Easy to spin that that the league didn't do their job......ops manual doesn't require logging
Yeah from what I understand the hatred runs up and down both organizations. I think it started when Parcells left New England and the story broke right before the Super Bowl that he was bailing... and Parcells looked like he just didn't care any more even in the Super Bowl. The players quit on him. It was ugly. Then he took all the players he brought over. Curtin Martin was our Tom Brady before Tom Brady. Tons of defensive guys. Megget even went I think. It sucked.
You have absolutely no idea what happened or how much anything was at the beginning... or even what it was at halftime. Other than the pressure wasn't where it was supposed to be. Neither do I.
[QUOTE="SteveGrogan, post: 3185182, member: 15040] Hasn't every leaked "report" been debunked or partly debunked in fairly short order afterward? [/QUOTE] Reports debunked by CBS Boston, the Boston Herald, the Nantucket Examiner or a blogger with a shitty chowd accent don't count. _
You know your correct, we really never know...and the seasons can be pretty disconcerting. Is the team going to only get to 12 - 4 again? Why can't we get to 13 - 3 for a change? Is this the year we're finally going to do 14 - 2 again? What is Rex's line of bullsh*t going to be at then of this loss? (It's like waiting for the Kennedy family line of bullsh*t after they kill somebody.) When are the Jets finally going to dump Rex and Geno so we have some real competition in this division? Damn, another boring season!
