FA will be a great indicator of what the front office sees as urgent needs even before the draft. I'm excited that the GM and HC will work hand in glove to define and capture talent based on the system we want to implement. Of course QB, CB and OL are areas of need no matter what system. If this young up and comer gets hired from the Rams, I expect some real insight into a vet QB that best matches Gaileys needs. And some solid WR talent either in FA or the Draft. Of course my dream off season is we pull a miracle and trade for Sam Bradford and we draft Marriota.
I wouldn't be opposed to trading for Bradford, given that it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I think I would rather just sign someone cheap though if our strategy is to draft Mariota. Sign Hoyer, Matt Moore, or Shaun Hill if we're just trying to bide our time for Mariota to come around. Won't cost us a pick and you'd probably get just as much production.
Allen had a bad year playing out of position for a good part of it. I wouldnt call him a "bad" player overall though. He has a place on a team.
Yep. All you have to do is compare us to the Indy Colts.. We have far and away much better talent than them...difference maker is obvious.
I usually agree with most everything you say, but couldn't disagree more with your sentence that I bolded. I've heard Jets fans say that for years. Pace is 50 years old, and Harris and Babin not far behind. Davis is the only younger starting LB they have. OLBs in particular can take a year or two to develop. Davis took a couple of years to develop at ILB. The team needs to get those young players NOW and start grooming them for the future. The last thing they need is to waste the DL and an opportunity to go deep into the playoffs in a couple of years because their LBs are all old and slow.
Tough thread. The Jets could be 8 above average players from contending, or even dominating the league in the regular season. They could be 11 average players from contending. They could be 2 elite players from winning the Super Bowl.
You should all try pipe dreaming your way to 5 - 11 before you attempt pipe dreaming your way into the Super Bowl. If you really insist on pipe dreaming, try dreaming your way to 9 - 7 first. This year, finally, you may have management enough to get you to 8 -8 this year, if they can get a QB and an offense team. I have 4 sisters that can't out day dream you folks.
Why pipe dream your way there when you can just cheat? Condolences on the 4 sisters, hopefully you don't have gonorrhea.
I actually agree with you. I was referring to FA acquisitions we could make this year in that post. I think those are the places we can and should upgrade at in FA this year. OLB is a little thin in terms of the FA market. There's Orakpo and Houston sure, but I think those guys are going to command too much money. I would love to sign Worilds, but the rest of the market is basically what we have now: Briggs, Umenyiora, Freeney, Abraham. If the Jets think they need to address LB this offseason, I would like to see them sign Worilds or draft a LB after our first pick. A lot of people have been talking about Denzel Perryman in the 2nd, I would love, love, love that. I think he will be a fantastic player, we could pair him up with Davis and we could finally get rid of Harris. I think we can get another year out of Pace and Babin, plus we still have Coples, so OLB isn't a huge need but we do need to get younger there.
I think these new stat sites like PFF are useful but people put too much stock in them as if they are gospel. we can see some of the names on there and how wrong they are in evaluating them. w/ that said I don't think we are the Jets of the mid 70s. there is talent to build around, if we have a good offseason we can be a playoff contender.
That your stubborn persistence in insisting that cb is not an important position has survived last season's experience of just how important it is is all too evident in this post. Quite simply I know of no competent analyst who does not think the Jets need help at Cb.
If the Jets could find there way into drafting a player like Russell Wilson in the draft with minimum cap hits early on, then absolutely. They will have tons of cap space and early draft picks that they could use to supplement the current roster. If they are not able to find that QB then they are a peak playoff team.
You may well be right, and it will be very interesting to see what moves the Jets make at linebacker. It seems to be the corps that posters here are most unsure about, and I say that rather than disagree about. Many people lumped in the lb's with DL last year as making up a tough front seven, with the secondary being the real problem on D. But I think only Davis had a good year overall. I have been a fan of Pace's since he came to the Jets, after dealing with some injuries toward the beginning. Some had too high expectations for sacks from him, but imo he's been a solid player, and I was not surprised they brought him back last off season. But I do think they may well be reluctant to go back to that well again this year, despite his solid veteran presence. Coples I think is just not succeeding at playing OLB. We keep waiting for him to complete the transition and start playing up to his draft status. Yet it has still not happened. My guess is they may well stick with replacing Pace and keep Coples in the mix for one more year. But along with penalties by Babin, OLB is an issue. Harris imo did not play well in 14, and if the Jets have a decent alternative to retaining him, they should pursue that. I think Harris in any event would like to go somewhere else, so we can hardly count on him returning. His situation also means the Jets may end up keeping Coples in his current role, since it will be a tall order what with the other gaping holes on the team to also come up with two starting linebackers, let alone 3. Of course it is possible the Jets go to a base 4-3, but I don't think that would be a silver bullet here.
Did you think Marcus Williams was good at CB by the end of last year? The Jets pass defense was actually good after the bye. Now add in one of the two young CB's who were hurt last year and throw in the fact that Darrin Walls is a decent depth guy and I think CB is not the problem. The problem is there is nobody good over top in centerfield. That's where most of the Jets failures after the first 7 games were. Your insistence that the Jets need a stud CB is wrong. They had decent CB's by the end of the year, both young, they didn't have a FS to glue it all together. They're getting back at least one and possibly two CB's next season.
Yeah, that's an easy word to say, but the both the Seahawks and the Patriots built their teams through the draft, which would take the Jets 6 years if they drafted a couple winners per year.
Heh! I thought Williams played okay but wasn't really challenged since opponents did not need to. But it is quite amusing you did not mention Kyle Wilson. What, do you want the Jets to bring him back anohther year? At least you did not claim Walls is starter material as some here claimed before last season. And of course counting on Milliner and some guy who has never played a down in the NFL, with two major injuries in his history, is an approach that did not work out very well last year. Here's the bottom line about your stubborn refusal to aknowledge the importance of CB - the Jets will add at least one quality Cb this off season. They will not do as you imply, which amounts to nothing.
Even though you rarely make a good point you are right, the smart money is on the Jets signing Maxwell from Seattle.
And if the Jets sign Maxwell to a big deal it will be a truly stupid move. He's a #2 CB playing opposite one of the best in the NFL. He gets help that Sherman doesn't every week. Signing him as though he will be better than what we have would be like signing Neil O'Donnell to play QB in '95. You can't pay top dollar for somebody whose success is completely related to the team he plays for. Going into camp next year the Jets CB roster will be: Dee Milliner, Marcus Williams, Dexter McDougle, Darrin Walls plus maybe Phillip Adams and somebody they draft at some point. That's a normal NFL distribution of talent at CB. Most teams don't have a shutdown CB and don't have two topflight CB's either. If you look at who wins Super Bowls most of those teams don't have a shutdown CB or two topflight CB's. The Jets roster at FS is going to be Jaiqwan Jarrett, Josh Bush and a cast of nobodies. That's the problem in the defensive backfield right now. It's very hard to win a championship without a topflight FS.
