Deflate-gate

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  1. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

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    You can't be that naive.

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  2. New England Patriots

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    This is where you push the cheating narrative with examples.
     
  3. felker

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    This game was played under moderate temperature conditions and dropped about 1 psi. What do you think the ball pressure would be during the ice bowl? There is no way you could inflate a ball so that it was 13.5-12.5 in the locker room and maintain that at -13 F. You are talking 8-9 psi during that game.

    The idea that the Patriots have a responsibility to somehow inflate the balls so they are 12.5-13.5 in the locker room and maintain that during in the game is not a thing. It's not even a physical possibility.
     
  4. New England Patriots

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    But it's the Patriots fault if the ball falls below 12.5!!!!1
     
  5. SteveGrogan

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    From last weds.
     
  6. New England Patriots

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    are you on crack atmospheric conditions change the pressure in the ball. Again for there to be a drop of 2 lbs the temp would need to be down in the teans for the to happen a high pressure system would have need to have rolled in during the game? Even Neil Tyson weighed and said the balls would need to be inflated with air at 125 degrees for a drop of 2lbs.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/neil-degrasse-tyson-defla_n_6551666.html

    Yeah lets ignore the science and bend the laws of physics because it happened in Mass. How long would it take to rub a ball to change the air temp inside? I don't know but it would take a long time
    Sorry but stop being defensive and look at the facts. When 30 scientist say something +_ the football manufacturer there might be a ring of truth that the pats tried to bend the rules and were caught
     
  8. JetsVilma28

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    So the kid took a wiz before the game and had to bring the game balls in with him lol

    Did he have the deflation needle? It's the last piece to the deflate-gate puzzle (that and the orders he got from someone that came from Brady which was approved by bb).

    Zzz
     
  9. pclfan

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    Here is part of what Kraft had to say to the press yesterday:"If the Wells investigation is not able to definitively determine that our organization tampered with the air pressure on the footballs, I would expect and hope that the league would apologize to our entire team and, in particular, coach [Bill] Belichick and Tom Brady for what they have had to endure this past week," Kraft said, referring to attorney Ted Wells, who is leading the investigation with NFL executive vice president Jeff Pash. Now read it carefully. What in your opinion is the key word. IMO "definitely" is the key word. Which means you can't prove it (in a court of law). It doesn't mean not guilty. So who the fuck do you think you're kidding.
     
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  10. New England Patriots

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    This is getting repetitive:

    1) There have been reports that it could only be 1 PSI
    2) There have been reports that the referees did not check the PSI in the inspect of the balls after the Patriots asked them to pump them to 12.5
    3) This shows what happens under roughly the same conditions as during the game:

    There are tons of "facts" out there. No one knows what the real facts are and to say that your facts are the right facts is ignorant.
     
  11. Br4d

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    This is a horrible strategy by the Pats. If they try to throw a little guy under the bus for this they will do as much damage to themselves as everything else leading up to that act.

    They're going to wind up admitting that something improper was done in the process of squishing the trainer and nobody will believe he did it without the tacit approval of Brady and Belichik.

    Then they're going to have the "screwing the little guy so the big guys can get over" problem.

    I'd wind this back really fast if I was Kraft.
     
  12. New England Patriots

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    I do not believe this is the strategy.
     
  13. JStokes

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    Ah, ok. I'm awaiting your education, professor.
     
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    What is repetitive is constant refusal to listen to anyone else and then trying to explain your point which no one here accepts
    There were reports the refs did not do their job, frankly it still does not exonerate the Pats for playing with deflated balls. That is the speeding defense and the next time you get a ticket please tell the judge everyone does it while you pay the fine.

    Now thanks for the link but that is one versus 30 other scientists and sorry to say I will go with majority. Rather then grasp at straws.

    All the excuses in the world does not explain what happened to the colts balls which were legal.
    At the same time you want to refute facts from everyone else sorry that dog does not hunt.
     
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    Have you changed anyone's opinion on this board, Captain Queeg?
     
  18. JStokes

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    Perception is reality.

    Patriots will forever be looked at as cheaters-convicted- and as having created an atmosphere of cheating and their SBs forever tainted.

    Deal with it.

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  19. pclfan

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    Apologizing to Belichick and Brady (and Kraft) would be the same thing as having the FBI apologize to Whitey Bulger because they can't prove he killed one person out of the 101 he killed.
     
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    He's an asshole for suggesting they are owed an apology for people doing their jobs. Even IF it was found they did no wrong all they did was an "investigation"... i.e. their jobs.

    It's just Kraft trying to bully the league into dropping it.
     
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