4-5 years is an absolute eternity in football. teams write contracts they can get out of in 2-3 years w/o much dead money penalty. in 4-5 years, almost every move we make this offseason will already be off the books, and 90+% of the roster will have turned over. in other words, 4-5 years from now is no reason not to do something today.
With the funds that are available to this team if they can't somehow figure out a way to take care of their 2 best homegrown defensive players, they are in some serious trouble. Both of these guys are cornerstone players to build around and the fact that you drafted them, developed them and had them under financial control for their first contracts is criminal to lose either one of them over money. Revis was a once-a-generation talent, and also a colossal PITA over money. My hope is, compared to him, both of these guys will resign and not be an every offseason headache over money...
Assuming that guy is drafted this year, and that's a very small if, then you trade Wilkerson at that time or cut him for a minimal cap hit since his contract was frontloaded. Then you're paying one defensive superstar and one QB, seems manageable somehow.
Not at all...I just happen to know that when it comes to Richardson it was Rex's find...that is all. There's plenty blame to go around for everyone about the last couple of year's debacles but a good chunk of it sits at Idzik's feet.
Where is your proof that Richardson was Rex's choice. Or is it just your assumption. And doesn't the GM make the final call on drafting. I didn't know Rex was GM. Or was it just for one player.
If anyone knows how to manage the cap it is the Patriots. Somehow they manage to retain talent without throwing out $10+ mil contracts and paying anyone worth keeping an extra $2 mil per year above their market value. The only position where they have significant cap room slated for two guys is the OL and those two guys combined make about as much as Brick. Here is a link to their cap situation: http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-england-patriots/
There are rumors today that if NEP cannot make a multi-year deal with Revis they are willing to pay him the 20 mil he is due for 2015. I find that hard to believe but that's what I read today on either Espn or NFLN (scroll).
besides having an elite HOF QB (and occasionally cheating) this is the true secret to new england's success. we probably cant do what they do, because we don't have the luxury of attaining average talent with upside to be elevated by an elite QB. we need rocks, we need anchors, but we need them in the right spots at the right price. Given how front loaded Mo's deal should be we'll have no problem retaining another anchor in Richardson. the fact that we scored huge TWICE on our D-line in the draft with two staggered rookie wage scale deals (and have a premier run stuffer in snacks) is incredibly lucky, especially given how quickly they've produced. we should be set on the D-line for the rest of the decade.
For those wanting to front load Mo Wilkerson's new deal I have the following questions: 1. Do you really think he will settle for a small signing bonus? 2. If you pay most of his salary in the first half of the contract why wouldn't he hold out when faced with a pay cut as he enters his prime? 3. If we give Mo $20 mil of cap space in year one how do we obtain starters at QB. CB. ILB (Harris is UFA), WR (if we cut Harvin), RG, LG, S (Landry is UFA), and a quality pass rusher?
thats a actually a 25 million dollar cap hit, for you see when it averages out with the 7 million dollar hit he's got this year, it means he's making his precious 16 million a year… the best decision the jets made in the last two years was dealing Revis and his contract headaches while getting Sheldon. If Revis is cut we shouldn't even give him a call, with his intentions he'll just want a two year deal thats overly backloaded.he cant solve our CB problems being a constant negotiating nightmare out for the most cash he can gather, especially if he's only here a year while doing it.
1. he will if he gets a large roster bonus instead. thats the way I think the jets should play this, give him a single digit signing bonus and a larger guaranteed roster bonus substituting a huge cap inflating signing bonus. in other words give him a 5 million dollar signing bonus and a 10 million dollar roster bonus, which would mostly impact only this year, instead of a single 15 million dollar signing bonus that would add a few million a year to whatever he made. let the overabundant cap space year take the hit rather than the next several years and guarantee about as much as would have been guaranteed had it been a straight signing bonus. Mo's camp would see no difference and the jets saved a bit of money in the future, its a win-win. this idea seems to be in vogue with D-linman league wide so why not with Mo? 2. well first thats assuming he would be faced with a pay cut at all, in fact if this is done right his cap hit should be more than manageable in the latter years, thats the point to front loading pay more now less later. but assuming his cap hit is too much and the jets want him to take a lower hit of some type, well its pretty cut and dry either he does a restructure, renegotiates, he's traded or he's cut. this scenario sees a key player not being worth the money he's owed obviously, so wheres the logic in holding out? Mo would have little leverage any direction the eye could see, I don't see that being any kind of issue. 3. with Harvin cut? well we'd have 46 million dollars left, I'm sure whatever we prioritize can be attained, within reason.
Rich went up the NFL team boards late based on the Combine and workouts. The Media missed it but Rich was there for NFL people. The reaction by that dumb fan in the stands looking perplexed was funny. Lotta people criticized the pick for Rich not being a '3-4' lineman, that was clueless too. Was NOT aware that that was Rex's thing tho. I didn't think it was Rich was ALL in 24fuckin7. He's a leader on the football field, and making plays is a big part of that...to go with how he brings it. I could give a flying fuck how he felt about Ferguson...he's from that way and entitled to his opinion
The only way the cap hit can be front loaded is to pay the player less money later than he is getting now. In year one you are giving him a roster bonus or a huge salary. In following years he will not only make less than this year but less than the average value of his contract (this is a pay cut). If he gets a four year deal worth $40 mil (this would be on the low end) and $25 mil counts against the cap in the first two years he will only get $15 mil minus the pro rated signing bonus in the last two years. In other words with a $10 mil signing bonus he is only getting an average of $5 million in new money in the final two years of his contract (hence the holdout). If he chose to retire he would also get to keep the entire signing bonus. There is a good reason that most contracts are back loaded.
True enough, but I guess I had a different less dramatic structure in my head. picture: 2015: 6.9 million base, 1m prorated, 10 million dollar roster bouns (fully guaranteed) 18 million cap hit 2016: 8 million base, 1m prorated, (fully guaranteed) 9 million cap hit 2017: 9million base, 1m prorated, 10 million cap hit 2018: 10 million base, 1m prorated, 11 million cap hit 2019: 11million base, 1m prorated, 12 million cap hit I don't have it in mind that he'll make little a year, just a bit less than he could if the deal was structured differently. picture this with a 15 million dollar cap hit prorating an extra 2 mil a year instead. this kind of "front loading " could make a difference over time. a 4 year extension worth about 60 mill, done easy.
Him and Mo Wilk have to be the cornerstone of our franchise if we're going to do anything this decade. I agree, I have been ecstatic with what we've gotten from Richardson, hes actually fun to watch play to play.
Sorry PCL...I can't find it. Two years is a lifetime on the internet and it would take days to whittle it down. Suffice it to say...you ARE correct that the GM pulls the draft "trigger." I just remember reading it was Ryan who "pushed" for Richardson...hard. Ryan is not infallible either...he also pushed for Taj Boyd and John Connor in the course of his 6 years here. I think, also, he pushed for that receiver friend of Sanchez but can't think of his name right now. As far as cap hits are concerned I think you do a standard deal for Wilk...and Richardson. Neither are in J.J. Watt territory but they certainly BOTH are in the top 5-10 of their position's respectively. And, there's no reason that 5 or 6 year deals can't get done. I like what TonyMac mapped out.
I have no doubt Rex was involved in the selection of Sheldon, etc. And Idzik's top picks were D players. Drafting Rich was a great pick. And just because you hate Idzik you can't take that away from him.
