Deflate-gate

Discussion in 'National Football League' started by 74, Jan 19, 2015.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,013
    Likes Received:
    89
    Who blamed Tomlin? I saw someone post "How is this worse than what Tomlin did during tripgate?" Who else mentioned Tomlin with blame included.
     
  2. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    4,581
    Likes Received:
    1,962
    How many times did we hear that the coach has control of everything on the sidelines, when our conditioning coach tripped the Dolphins player in 2010? If it's happening you better believe Belicheck knows about it.

    The whole offense and quite possibly the whole team knew what was going on.
     
  3. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    Those are Pats fan canned answers.

    If they did it, there MUST have been a reason, no? You don't just do something for shits and giggles that everyone QB acknowledges gives you a better feel for the ball in cold weather, right?

    And lets say it didn't really effect the Colts game because it was a blowout.

    But what if they've been doing it for all cold weather games.

    The Ravens lost by 4 points the week before.

    Is that small advantage enough to win by less than one touchdown?

    _
     
  4. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2011
    Messages:
    13,325
    Likes Received:
    4,083
    The Colts defense was pathetic ,they wouldn't have won regardless .There was nothing wrong with Andrew Lucks ball ......
     
  5. Geno007

    Geno007 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2013
    Messages:
    3,752
    Likes Received:
    712
    I disagree. The Pats was only up 10 at halftime and from what I read that maybe when it happen after halftime.
     
  6. JetsHuskers fan

    JetsHuskers fan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Messages:
    1,943
    Likes Received:
    600
    Meant to put in "dragging Tomlin in" kinda tired right now.
     
  7. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2011
    Messages:
    13,325
    Likes Received:
    4,083
    Andrew Luck was throwing a regular ball .......The Pats defense doesn't have a ball in there hands.
     
  8. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2009
    Messages:
    8,993
    Likes Received:
    5,633
    If I'm a Frito Lay exec, I'm throwing $ at Belichick and appealing to his sardonic sence of humor to do a commercial for Cheetos.
    Kind of like Belichick's wry way of giving the middle finger back.
    [​IMG]




    "The 1st ball was tooo hot....
    ...and the 2nd ball was too cold...."

    [​IMG]
     
  9. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2006
    Messages:
    13,265
    Likes Received:
    7,166
    I think so too. That laugh when it was brought to his attention on that radio show seemed very disingenuous. I have a feeling the he's been doing this for a very long time. I was always baffled by how a scrawny average arm prospect coming out of college turned into this strong arm QB in the pros. That normally never happens.
     
  10. al_toon_88

    al_toon_88 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2005
    Messages:
    3,820
    Likes Received:
    331
    1. taping Rams walkthrough before Super Bowl
    2. Spygate
    3. deflate-gate

    these are just some of the things we know about, things they have been caught at.

    who knows how many other Belichick-ean cheating tactics have been employed over the years that haven't been uncovered?
     
  11. SteveGrogan

    SteveGrogan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2011
    Messages:
    1,046
    Likes Received:
    60
    I think it's possible Tom Brady doctors the balls up exactly how he likes them... and for the most part he gets away with it from the refs because he's Tom Brady.

    Of course that's wild speculation rooted in nothing but gut feeling of what seems reasonable to me.
     
  12. VegasMav

    VegasMav Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2002
    Messages:
    2,214
    Likes Received:
    349
    New England Patriots Super Bowl Commercial

     
    One eye, milo, PulseJet and 1 other person like this.
  13. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    What does that have to do with the Ravens game?

    Is it not possible that the Patriots blatant disregard for the rules is what propelled them into the AFC Championship game?

    _
     
  14. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    Lol Sucking balls will not deflate them.

    _
     
    74 likes this.
  15. Wahoo

    Wahoo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2002
    Messages:
    4,775
    Likes Received:
    2,817
    Point taken. Then what is your explanation for the NFL not addressing this by now?
     
  16. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2011
    Messages:
    13,325
    Likes Received:
    4,083
    Hardbaugh said the kicking ball was a bit deflated due to cold weather....
     
  17. Trip McNealy

    Trip McNealy Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2008
    Messages:
    792
    Likes Received:
    19
    Belichick approves the type of toilet paper in there...of course he knew.
     
  18. strngplyr

    strngplyr Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2010
    Messages:
    1,013
    Likes Received:
    89
    It was noticed after the interception before the half. Confirmed during halftime, corrected during halftime, New England goes on a 28-0 run after having the "advantage" removed. Brady plays the second half going 12-14 and two TD's.

    Only for comparing punishment. Tomlin directly stepped infront of a player on the field and laughed about it during the game.

    The Patriot's played the first half with balls rougly 1.5 PSI below the minimum allowed pressure (at the time of testing, it is a proven fact that pressure drops over time in cooler temperatures than they are first checked, the question is by how much and how quickly).



    ^ This is obviously extreme conditions, but it is also over the course of 60 minutes, we're looking at roughly 180 minutes for the game in question (from initial check 2h15m before kickoff to halftime).

    I'm not even remotely close to an expert on how the weather effects it, I can only present the information I have.
     
  19. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    2,526
    Likes Received:
    1,695
    If nothing was done to them "altered" we wouldn't be talking about it. Someone did alter the balls. The who doesn't matter, ball boy, cheerleaders, Brady, Kraft...the blame falls on the coach, the shame falls on the team.
     
  20. JStokes

    JStokes Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2013
    Messages:
    20,735
    Likes Received:
    9,196
    K balls aren't monitored like offense balls.

    I have to imagine this is a pattern of conduct and that the Patriots used that tiny advantage to an ill-gotten win.

    _
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page