1984 Jim Sweeny C - Round 2 1986 Mike Haight G - Round 1 1986 Doug Williams T - Round 2 1988 Dave Cadigan T - Round 1 It wasn't for lack of trying. After getting a hit with Sweeny the Jets whiffed on three consecutive OL picks in the first two rounds of the draft. The Jets scouting department is the villain in this case. The core of the team got very old as the front office failed to replace them despite finding a few gems such as O'Brien, Toon, and Sweeney.
wow didn't know that about mcguire but I have seen that sort of thing happen before. I am a high school referee and one of the players in a game I was officiating got hit so hard he swallowed his tongue. His coach had to reach in and pull it out. Very scary stuff
Sounds a little like Rex! Walton was that roughing call on Gastineau away from the AFC Championship game...With a sack artist like him you can win a game like that. Way up there on the Jets disappointment list. Nowadays that's enough for SOME Jets fans. Mehl was an all time great Jet... as was Klecko and Gastineau McQuire was a sickening Assclown...I remember Klecko talking about him and me wishing Klecko coulda bitch slapped that schmuck. Klecko belongs in the HOF...sonsabitches
Of course I remember Walton, I also remember Sam Walton. I also remember Schmidt, Hill, Rassmussen, Herman, Boozer, Snell, Lammons, Maynard, Sauer, Atkinson, Biggs, Philbin and Elliot, Baird and Grantham, Baker, Sample, Beverly.
and doh, I transposed and misread that as the 1968 jets and not 1986....I guess it was the words 'old enough to remember'.
There's no difference. Rex was lucky to even get in the playoffs the first year. It's about winning a Championship. The team was certainly driven into the ground on his watch, exactly like Walton. Having lived through both, I've noted similarities long ago. Not surprised by this thread. The '86 season was one the all time disappointments for me. The '82 season prolly the biggest...But that's a different can of worms entirely
this is why Jet fans deserve 2014. There is nothing similar about them. Walton took over a young team coming off 2 straight postseasons and an AFC title game app. Led them to 2 losing seasons right away before getting them back to playoffs. Rex inherited a team that had missed 2 straight postseasons, was aging and expensive. won w/ players previous coach could not win with and team had to be dismantled b/c of cap. There are no similarities.
Nobody wanted Rex to succeed more than me. But he crashed and fuck burned...c-ya! The team that Rex inherited was the was same team you're talking about. When that beat the Titans in Tennessee and was 8-3, it was one the best teams in the league. Farve got hurt it was over. Mangini was tellin' Woody to fuck off, that's why he got fired . He built that team. Rex won with his team
the same Titans who were one and done in postseason and haven't been back since? we didn't beat the '72 dolphins or '85 Bears. that team was 9-7 against a creampuff schedule w/ no Brady to deal with and a HOF QB under C for us. So Rex won w/ Mangini's team while Mangini couldn't win w/ Mangini's team- what is the point?
f The point is neither one of them won a championship. I'm not hanging my hat on either. The point is excuses work for Rex but not for Walton or Manini. The point of the endeavor here is Winning a Championship. Not being loyal, or being a good guy, or talking big. Circumstances have a played a role with the fate of this team. It's ironic, if Walton had made it to the Championship game and lost, his legacy would be the same. Yet Some fans can't take criticism of Rex. They are all in the same boat. They didn't win a Championship. Manipulating statistics means nothing, or proves who's the better coach. Don't matter. That's like comparing Parcells to somebody else here based on the record. That doesn't work for me. I'm not gonna sit and debate Rex's laurels compared to Walton and Mangini based on a handful statistics. They failed in the end equally. Walton got close twice, so did Rex. Both teams crashed and burned. Don't matter how close. A game here or there doesn't mean squat if you don't win the big one in end . Close isn't good enough, for me, or them most likely. Rex is history. The record shows that. It's over. Let's see how he does with the Bills
One of them got us close to a championship, really the closest since SB III. I am not saying to worship Rex but can we have some appreciation? but did Walton make a title game and lose? he blew a 10 pt lead in final mins to blow title game app. His team was 10-1 and finished 10-6 in a MUCH weaker era of AFC football w/o a dynasty team in the division. Walton never got close, he close to a title game ONCE. He also got home playoff games as a WC team too and his lone PO win came at home.
Decades later I would never wear a backwards baseball cap -- b/c of memories of Joe Walton, on the sideline, hat reversed, befuddled expression, playing prevent D and letting another game slip away . . . . .
