Free Agency Under Bowles and Maccagnan

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  1. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    I'm not dissing Landry. If he's our DB we got no chance. He's average, at best. Let him go to Buffalo and interpret for Rex up there. We need better than him. He's somewhat of a leader, but he's an average player. We need a player back there, a spearhead...something they were hoping Pryor might be.
     
  2. Charlie Kelly

    Charlie Kelly Well-Known Member

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    Pryor could end up being a solid SS but we really need a true cover safety and there may be a few in FA. Tired of this stuff with Rex trotting 2 strong safeties out there for the past 6 years. Still can't believe we pass on Honey Badger, he would have been perfect.
     
  3. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Landry missing tackles, Erik Smith's ass chasing after people, before that. It's a mess back there.

    Bring in a guy, and hopefully Pryor, McDougle, Allen, Millener, etc. progress. A guy to spearhead that group...Bring in Cro too!
     
  4. Geno Da Meano_

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    Byron Maxwell
    Spiller
    Franklin
    QB to compete with Geno
    Acho
     
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  5. Truth4U2

    Truth4U2 Well-Known Member

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    I just saw this on NFL.com ... it's the official UFA list by team:
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000459443/article/2015-nfl-unrestricted-free-agents-by-team

    Now, some of these guys might get the franchise tag, or RFA tag, but if we look at the Cards and Texans, we might get a clue as to guys the new regime might target:

    Here are a few that stand out for me:

    Antonio Cromartie
    Jonathan Dwyer
    Kareem Jackson, CB
    Brooks Reed, OLB
    Danieal Manning, S
    Kendrick Lewis, S

    ....btw I can't believe some people want Spiller, the guy has been an underachiever and injury-prone his whole career!
     
  6. Kris 15

    Kris 15 Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to believe there isn't a single QB out there who we can trust to throw more TDs than INTs.
     
  7. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Yea, I want to see what McDougle can do. Freak injury and everyone forgets he's on the team. If Milliner has a healthy season and McDougle plays about where I think he can, signing a veteran FA for the CB position would be a waste of cash. We still need a QB, multiple offensive linemen (LT, LG, RG), a WR.
     
  8. CJGreen

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    How do you make decision about someones career based off only 2 seasons? Do we not draft players to develop anymore? Are we expecting all players to hit the field at pro bowl levels or they are busts??

    Im not seeing a better option than Geno right now, and to me he gets a chance to show he can improve with competent coaching, and team building. Same with Milliner, McDougal, and Shaq Evans.....let our draft picks develop before we are ready to label them busts.

    With that being said though, dont be surprised to see Matt Simms start looking like an NFL quarterback in Chan Gailey's system. The guy has the tools....imo
     
  9. The Dark Knight

    The Dark Knight Well-Known Member

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    My optimism includes the assumption that Geno Smith will not be the starting quarterback in 2015. A new GM and Coach will not want him in the starting role. If he somehow is the starter: yes, my excitement would go down BIG TIME. Haha.
     
  10. FJF

    FJF 2018 MVP Joe Namath Award Winner

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    the thing about this is, there is not a lot of options available that are going to be a marked upgrade to geno. the f.a. qb market is so bad sanchez is going to be considered qb1 or 2 available. blanket statements that if geno is starting the new regime is messing up without taking into consideration what the other alternatives might be is being a bit shortsighted,i.m.o.
     
  11. PulseJet

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    Antonio Cromartie open to Jets reunion with Bowles
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    • New York Jets hired Todd Bowles, some questioned why replace a defensive-minded wizard like Rex Ryan with another defense-first coach.

      Cornerback Antonio Cromartie played for years under Ryan and spent last season under Bowles. Cro knows exactly why the Jets locked down Bowles.

      "I think it's a great hire," he said Friday on NFL Network's NFL Total Access. "The reason why I say that is he's one of the smartest coaches I've been around. I've been around Rex, I've been around our defensive coordinator (with New York Jets) in Dennis Thurman -- those guys are smart. Being around a guy like Todd Bowles, who can tell you exactly what an offense is gonna do just by from the offensive linemen to how the quarterback stands in the backfield or where the running back is, that just speaks volumes on what kind of time he puts into his work.

      "When you bring in a guy like Todd Bowles, who's from New Jersey, grew up in Elizabeth, New Jersey and he's back at home, I think he's gonna love what he's doing."

      Cromartie said Bowles is a "fiery guy" who will flourish with the talent on the defensive side of the ball in New York, praised Bolwes for bringing in Chan Gailey (the presumptive OC favorite) and, of course...

      "Plus, they gonna have $50 million in cap space too, so that's a chance to go out and get players," Cromartie said.

      Well isn't it iteresting that Cromartie, a soon-to-be free agent, knows that the Jets have a boatload of cash to spend -- even if $50 million is a bit of a stretch.

      Would he be open to a reunion with the Jets and Bowles? Or would he like to return to Arizona?

      "I'm leaving the door open, until the Super Bowl is over with I'm still an Arizona Cardinal. Until they come to me about a contract, I'm still an Arizona Cardinal," he said. "But once (free agency) hits and no one's offered me a contract, then I'm free game. And I'm open to anything to go out and try to win a championship and help any organization."

     
  12. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    lol you are not dissing Landry, but say we have no chance if he's a starting S? that sure sounds like dissing him.

    He's definitely a leader, but i would also agree he's an average player.
    Won't make many big plays for you, but also won't make many negative plays. He actually graded out as the 9th best S in league according to PFF. 85 tackles, couple sacks, not one penalty called on him. He had a very solid, reliable, albeit unspectacular, year.
    Literally everyone else in our secondary had poor years, so i just find it a bit odd to single out the one guy who had a good year.

    The decision on Landry to me depends on the plans for Pryor.
    Landry is better off playing more of a SS role. Pryor may need to play the same role, as he really struggled as the single high S.
    If we can pick up a better FS, and move Pryor around more, i'd be game for that.

    The stud DB available in FA is Revis.....that's the guy who will improve the entire secondary.
     
  13. legler82

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    More TDs than INTs doesn't guarantee wins.
     
  14. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    we've got to pick up a journeyman type QB. Fitzpatrick, Moore, Hoyer.... someone who can manage a game if need be.

    that doesn't excite in any way, but may just end up our starter unless Geno (or even Simms) shows a lot of improvement in offseason.
    if we draft a guy (which i hope we do), i wouldn't plan on anything but them learning for a year.
     
  15. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    i agree, spending slightly less on Franklin seems the more shrewd move.
    guess it depends on the type of O they want to run. Iupati is an impressive road grader, but Franklin is by far the better pass protector.
    I'd be happy with either.
     
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    johnny Well-Known Member

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    If I am not mistaken Revis signed a two year contract with the Pats last year. Therefore, the Pats are the front-runner to have Revis next year - assuming that they can renegotiate the contract terms for 2015 downward (I think he has a $20M cap hit this year).
     
  17. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    true, he's still under contract.
    25M cap hit, 20M freed up if they release him.

    obviously they cannot keep him at that number. What they do have is essentially first dibs on negotiation.
    I fully expect the Pats to work hard at keeping him. just crossing my fingers that he at least leaves that organization.
     
  18. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    There's no way he renegotiates. He'll make way more money on the free market than on a reduced salary from the Pats; and he has all the leverage, since he essentially makes $25 million if he refuses to negotiate and they don't release him.

    Knowing his agents, Revis will continue to be a mercenary. To maximize his value next year, he's gonna leave the Pats.
     
  19. BacktoQueens

    BacktoQueens Well-Known Member

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    Here's hoping you are right.

    I can see the Pats offering him 14M though. He's had a tremendous impact on their D.
    would he turn that down just to test the waters in FA? maybe..
     
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  20. Axel3419

    Axel3419 Well-Known Member

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    Psychologically, I think Revis still won't settle for less than $16 million a year. He took 0 guaranteed money with the Bucs so he could make $16 million. He created a weird, 2nd-year $25 million option that he would never get just so he could technically make $32 over 2 years (or $16 million a year). I think he'll take $14 million but not unless he averages $16 million or more over the course of his contract.

    That's why the Pats won't restructure, IMO. Another team will take on his (or his agent's) craziness.
     
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