Does This Team Really Scare Away Candidates?

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  1. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    He kinda is. He just saved us another wasted year (maybe more) on Idzik. That doesn't mean the people we just hired are going to be better, but it does mean we're already a year closer to finding out thanks to the billboards. I'd anoint him Fireman Billboard Guy and give him Ed's hat if I could.
     
  2. GangGreenBlues

    GangGreenBlues Well-Known Member

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    1) Typically, with an experienced GM candidate, you want to see a history of being a successful GM somewhere. With younger guys who haven't been GMs yet, you want to see them come from an important position at a successful NFL team. Maccagnan comes from the Houston Texans, a fairly mediocre team that finished with the worst record in the league last year (2013). So there's that. Of course you can argue that he wasn't the GM or the HC so it was somebody else's fault, but then you'd have to show some personal history of success for him. He was the director of their scouting 2012-2014. During those 3 years, Texans' drafting was nothing special. So again, nothing noteworthy.

    2) That whole thing with "turning everyone down" is way overdone. That's what everyone said about Ryan Pace when he turned the Jets down, that he was going to stay with the Saints, etc, and guess what, a few days later, he became the Bears GM. People don't turn down good jobs very often. Sure there might be times when someone is really loyal to their organization or wants to stay for some reason, but generally, well run organizations get their guys, and teams that can their GMs 2 years in because the media and the fans are whining, well, for those teams, magically every guy they like decides to stay with his team.
     
  3. fireidzik_billboard

    fireidzik_billboard Active Member

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    I hope he does get another job. I hope he gets hired as the GM of the Pats. I don't wish any ill will on him - I am just happy he is no longer employed by the Jets in any capacity.
     
  4. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    Idzik got himself fired by doing a shitty job,Without the Billboard I still think off of media pressure alone Woody would have fired him
     
  5. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    I respectfully disagree. Woody would have let Idzik stay here until it began affecting him (Woody) personally - either in the pocket book or because of personal embarrassment. The billboards sufficiently embarrassed him to the extent that he couldn't ignore his incompetence anymore.
     
  6. JoeyStylez

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    Trust me, as a Knicks fan, I'm all too familiar with the walking failure known as James Dolan. I didn't mention him in this guys original post, he had Dolan and Woody together has the top two worst owners.
     
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  7. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    The media was already blaming the season on Idzik ,Woody pays serious attention to anything media related with the Jets .Idzik sealed his fate with that press confrence that's when the world turned on him for good
     
  8. fireidzik_billboard

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    The press conference put us over the edge and we had the website up that night.... I agree that Idzik got himself fired and that our campaign wasn't the most important factor. I do think that if Woody was having any doubts about firing him though, we erased it.
     
  9. LongIslandBlitz

    LongIslandBlitz Well-Known Member

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    I really think had he not done that press confrence that he may still be the Jets GM,that really opened the door for him to be destoryed by the media/fans because he really sounded like he had no idea what he was talking about,it was hard to watch
     
  10. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    Woody doing what you guys said is no great accomplishment. If that's how he runs his team. By public opinion. In 2 years there was nothing the guy did (except the presser) which should have gotten him fired. Not the draft or the unspent cap space or not signing one cornerback. As a matter of fact he made a trade for a guy they couldn't retain and got back the 13th pick in the 2013 draft that resulted in him selecting the best player in that draft. Something you punks would never give him credit for. Rebuilding a team from a 6-10 when he took over is not a 2 year process.
     
  11. fireidzik_billboard

    fireidzik_billboard Active Member

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    I give you credit for sticking to your story despite the overwhelming evidence of the contrary. You are a stubborn man who does not know the definition of the word quit.
     
  12. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    I have no love for Idzik. He was ok. Where is the evidence. There is none. Just a vindictive nasty little act.
     
  13. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Evidence of what? That he was doing a bad job?
     
  14. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    Why hasn't he gotten any interviews with other teams?
     
  15. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Where is his "overwhelming" evidence. Or yours for that matter.
     
  16. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You feel the team's level of talent had improved of the past two years?
     
  17. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    I think our talent fits what our record was which is shit
     
  18. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    You have to blame the record on one guy and if you love Rex so it's all Idzik's fault. Btw Idzik's first year an 8-8. Funny, you didn't want to fire him then.
     
  19. Unhappyjetsfan

    Unhappyjetsfan Well-Known Member

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    Why is that funny? He literally couldn't do anything as a GM (other than draft) until Sanchez's salary was off the team. And that wasn't going to happen until after that first year no matter what. Then, that second offseason he could pretty much do anything he wanted (because of the number of draft picks and the massive amount of salary cap space) and he struck out across the board.
     
  20. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    He struck out in under one year. How is that? How's about some crappy coaching. The team Rex had talent wise was not a 4-12 team. And the cap recovery wasn't as simplistic as you think. I have no doubt you know absolutely nothing about contracts and cap space.
     

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