I Don't Want Another Rookie QB

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  1. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    One player on that list that may be wise to give an opportunity is Colt McCoy. I was a big fan of his while he was at UT. He has a solid arm, is a veteran now, has made huge strides and is a good leader. I'm not saying he's the long term answer, but for 2015 he might be a nice stop gap.
     
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  2. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Yeah, not too strong. There's a couple of guys that have potential, but all have strong flaws. Heck, even the top 2 have strong flaws.
     
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    Disagree on Mariota. Winston is, not Marcus IMO
     
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    Cut him!
    He's a waste of laundering practice T shirts.
    Do you have to have a building fall on you to prove someone is worthless?
     
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    I think their "flaws" are minor and correctable. The only other guy I'm warming up to is Petty but he's miles behind Mariota and Winston. The rest of the class is awful.

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  6. JStokes

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    That's fine, we're all just guessing.

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    The only way the Jets are winning a Superbowl is by finding a QB in the draft. Maybe you dont want someone in this class, but the Jets need to find a top 15 QB to be contenders. Doesnt need to be round 1 (Brees, Russell Wilson, Romo Brady), but it seems that most top tier quarterbacks are 1st rounders (Manning 1 and 2, Rivers, Luck, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Newton, Ryan)
     
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    Let's hope Tampa feels the same way you do. I think Mariota would be a beast in Gailey's offense.
     
  9. Ozymandias

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    The guy has played three games, he would be stupid to declare. Not enough body of work to evaluate. Sure he made some plays against Bama and Oregon but that doesn't warrant a high draft pick.

    The QB position for Ohio State next year is his.
     
  10. kevmvp

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    Maybe, like JStokes said, we're all just guessing really. I dont think his game will translate to the NFL, but I could be wrong.
     
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    After Mariota and Winston there is no one on the horizon that's a franchise type guy. Folks keep spouting the "we can just grab our QB in 2016" like someone is magically going to appear. Cook and Hackenberg are not QBs to drool over.

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  12. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Pettys accuracy is a concern
     
  13. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    I disagree. Cook and Hackenberg are both the real deal
     
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    Hackenberg is an enigma; he'll display great accuracy, footwork, one week and the next week he'll revert to terrible mechanics and poor decision making.

    I think it's too early to call him the "real deal", but I still believe that the Jets will come out of the draft with either Winston or Mariota.
     
  15. JStokes

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    His "game" in college is not the game he'll play for the rest of his life.

    Not sure why folks think that.

    Oregons job wasn't to develop a QB for the pros, it was to win as many games as they could. That system wins a lot in college.

    Super-smart super-talented players can adapt into any system.

    Maybe he'll bust (unlikely a true bust). His upside could be Aaron Rogers-like.

    Or a more mobile, more athletic, stronger armed Matt Ryan.

    Isn't that worth the gamble?

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    Oooof. Cook's not even a 59% passer in college. He was AWFUL in that bowl game. I've watched ever game he's played on TV this year WANTING to love the guy and he was so unimpressive.

    Hackenberg is just a bad QB.

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    But you like Cook's accuracy?!?

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    Agreed, that wasnt their job. But it's what the team who drafts him will then need to do, prepare him for the Pros. If i'm investing a top pick in a guy, I dont want a guy who I have to develop from step 1. I'd feel much more comfortable with a guy who ran a pro style offense. There is always going to be a transition from college to the NFL but its even harder for guys coming out of systems that as you said "win a lot in college".

    Now if you think you have the coaching staff in place to develop a project like Mariota than go for it. I'm not sure the Jets do. And I dont mean that as a negative on the Jets CS. I like Bowles and Gailey but when your dealing with project players there is always a bigger risk involved. I'd just prefer the Jets to stay away from a guy like this at this time.
     
  19. JStokes

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    The mentality of taking an inferior talent because he has experience as a 20 year old in a pro style offense against college players escapes me.

    Give me the super talented super bright guy that can adapt rather than the dolt who happened to take snaps from under center.

    2015 does not matter.

    The next 15 years matter.

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  20. kevmvp

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    Your assuming Mariota can adapt. We dont know if he can. If he can't adapt, which is what my opinion on him is based around, then his talent drops off significantly.

    In my scenario i'm not taking the less talented guy cause I dont think Mariota is going to be that talented in the NFL. Once again, JMO
     

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