Big Glennon fan, and I couldnt' disagree more with those dismissing him. In what world has Glennon been given a fair shot? What makes you think the Bucs make good decisions? They signed JOSH MCCOWN to start over him this year instead of letting him develop. And yet you are going to trust their judgment? If a Jets QB put up these #s with a HORRENDOUS offensive live and 0 running game, would you guys bench him? 59% completion percentage, 29 TD, 15 INT. Hmm yeah so nearly 60% completion and a 2 to 1 TD:INT ratio on a team where he got no protection and never had a semblance of a running game (granted, he had good WRs.) I'd take a shot there rather than waste a #6 overall pick on Winston, sign Cutler, etc.
And how do you know Glennon can't lead a team? Just interested where that came from. I'm a fan of him. Statue in the pocket, but he was always a project and he's performed pretty well all things considering in a bad situation there. I think he has just as much upside as Winston. Also, how can you just dismiss the off the field troubles for Winston and the fact we can get Glennon MUCH cheaper?
I think trading for Glennon and letting him compete with Geno is very interesting idea! Tampa is clearly taking Mariota and would want their vet QB to backup Mariota over Glennon. Glennon takes care of the ball and has a good arm. I like how he has some staring experience and I feel he can fill out more than that skinny frame. Draft Amari Cooper with Decker, Harvin and Kerley I think we can have a decent offense with Glennon under center.
I just hope that Winston doesn't fall to 6th because if he does I'm afraid they'd take him. This happened two times during drafts recently: the Jets taking players I was praying they wouldn't select: with Geno because of the pouting on camera because he wasn't drafted higher. And Stephen Hill who had physical attributes but very little football experience. He reminded me of Gholston.
I'm not saying Glennon is a surefire stud, but I think he can be an above average QB and I've been mystified at the amount of people who are so quick to dismiss him for really no reason. The #s he's put up over the past two years with Tampa (and he was clearly drafted as a project) have been better than every Jets QB since Chad Pennington! Pathetic, but true.
Glennon or Bradford to compete with Geno, while we draft or sign a WR (Cooper or Crabtree as an example), and sign a FA pass rusher or draft one, would be ideal. OL picks 2-4.
I like the Glennon idea depending on the cost in a trade... Not a fan of the Bradford project at all though... The guy is the most injury prone QB I have ever seen and Geno will be starting by week 4...
I actually love Bradford as a player, loved him coming out of school and he's been solid when he's on the field, but I think I agree that the injury risk is a bit much.
I wouldn't mind bringing in Glennon. I've watched quite a few games he's played in and have been VERY impressed. A lot more so than with Geno. We have twice as good a shot of bringing him in than we do Bradford. I think St. Louis is going to keep Sam.
Rather have him than Bradford. Bradford is done, he can't stay healthy. Glennon can be a good QB in this league. He played decent imo, I think the Bucs were stupid for going with McCown.
We have a winner. Been reading this thread and that was the FIRST thing that came to mind. And all these comparisons to Geno match that thought process....even though their college careers were vastly different and so was their style of play.
Whoever the Jets hire as head coach is going to come in with an immediate disadvantage because of the QB situation. The Jets options here are ugly and uglier.
Yeah, but you also have nowhere to go but up. Just show some progress where you can, and hopefully at some point the Jets can get a real Qb going forward. It's probably more fun taking over a winner in the short run. But then you look bad, like Ryan, when the team declines during your watch, even if that's not all that much under your control.
Not sure where the posts about white vs. black and college performance started to permeate into the discussion...sounds like a bunch a people who have humanity envy to me... Having said all that, if you hold up Glennon's PRO work vs. Geno's PRO work there is a distinct difference in their abilities. Glennon would be the perfect candidate to bring in to compete with Geno. Cost would be low, upside would be high and the way things sit now we really have nothing to lose. Doesn't affect our draft decisions nor any other F/A decisions. It's pretty much a win/win.
Agreed. Probably the best win any incoming coach could come away with is to draw the potential out of Geno and turn him into a legitimate NFL starting quarterback. That would clearly differentiate them from Rex. That said, having seen Genos body of work so far, I'm pessimistic any coach can accomplish that. He clearly has star talent, but he's mentally inconsistent. It would take someone making an enormous impact on Geno as a person to get him to focus. I wouldn't blame the new coaches for not placing that high on their priority list.
I think Smith sucks and has no real upside. I don't see how you coach inconsistency out of him. Different approaches haev been tried with him. People saw progress at the end of 13 that turned out be a mirage. He came back in 14, just as lousy and inconsistent as ever. A different coaching approach was tried. I just don't see how his negatives aer a result of poor coaching. He got plenty of support from Idzik, Ryan and Marty, and he still sucked. The logic of bringing in a new CS is not to take the same retread players and hope you haev some new angle, some particular genius no one else has, to get something we've never seen out of such playesr before. The logic is to revise the roster and produce ovearll better results. That is the more realistic way to go forward.
Right. I agree, just saying that is about the only way I can think of that the next group will be able to polish a turd with the current outlook at this position. Maybe something bizarre will happen, like Mariotta falling to six, but I doubt it. More likely we end up with a bum like Shaun Hill next year. The new leadership can't wait too long to find the next QB of the future, lest they get swept away under the tide of mediocrity that continues to plague this organization.