You fire a GM after two years, of course this team scares away candidates. How can you preach loyalty when you do these things. Such a joke. Idzik deserves a coach hire and another draft.
If he was indeed a good GM that got a raw deal, someone else will give the "coach hire and another draft" he deserves. Tanny got another shot.
No one said he was a great GM, but he clearly did some things well. I am saying it was too early for him to be fired because not only does it set a bad precedent for future good candidates that the owner is a media / fan puppet but that it takes time for a draft to develop. I am not pretending he didn't fuck up royally WR and CB this year, he did. But come on woody show some patience. If I am a good gm candidate and have multiple interviews. This Jets job is clearly towards the bottom. High stress to win now with no timetable for growth, media hates you, and an owner who you can't trust to flip the whole organization structure because some overweight loser jets fans who got tricked into buying overpriced psl's got angry and wanted the GM fired. I love the jets, but its the truth.
You never cease to amuse. Sure I can. After Tanenbaum was fired, the job was very unattractive based on football reasons. Salary cap hell, aging talent depleted roster with guaranteed contracts, being stuck with the HC. This year, given strictly football reasons, it's a pretty attractive job. The cap situation is one of the best in the league with tons of money to spend, most older guys are either gone or close to it, there is a lot more younger talent on the team, and if the GM doesn't get any say on the new HC, at least it's a new one, presumably picked to compliment the GM. A pretty high draft order too. And yet, because of what happened with Idzik, any GM candidate with half a brain and other options on the table will most likely go somewhere else.
At the end of the 12 season sure the Jets had cap issues. But this was hardly hell, and was rather easily resolved such that by the beginning of 14 the Jets entered the season well under the cap. The real issue at the end of 12 was the Jets just completed a fiasco of a season, with Tebow, 6-10, the Sanchez contract extension meaning that he would get 13 as another guaranteed season, and perhaps most daunting was that Johnson wanted to not even make an offer to extend and keep the team's best player. Then you had Johnson add in that he was retaining Ryan, and said that before he interviewed GM candidates. It was a much more controversial situatoin than the present. Johnson ended up hiring someone who was not on the list generated by the search firm. Since then Idzik did a shitty job, and got fired. He took the job knowing he had to work with Ryan, and in fact could have, in theory, fired Ryan after the first year, but he didn't. I also predict that whoever is hired will have more than half a brain. In short there is nothing in the present situatoin that indicates that Idzik being fired after two years is an impediment to hiring a new GM. Saying so is just an unsupported opinion by those here who wanted to retain Idizk for some facacta reason.
It's complicated. Leon Hess died in May 1999. Parcells was GM and HC at the time. Parcells coached the entire 1999 season and resigned the day after the season ended (the first week in January 2000). At this same time (Jan 2000), the Hess family had put the Jets up for sale and a bidding process was going on between the Dolan family and the Johnson family. It was definitely not public knowledge when Parcells resigned whether or not Woody would be the next owner. Was it privately known within the Jets? Who knows? Maybe, maybe not - if anybody knew, Parcells would have known. Personally, I don't think anyone knew who would win the bid. Anyways, Woody Johnson had the high bid and the sale of the team went through on January 18, 2000. Parcells resigned as General Manager a year later in January 2001. The likely reason for Parcells resigning when he did is that Belichick's contract specifically said he became Jets HC on the day Parcells retired ... and the Patriots asked the Jets for permission to interview Belichick the day after the season ended. By retiring, Parcells blocked the Patriots from legally poaching Belichick; he was now under contract with the Jets as HC and Head of Player Personnel. The next day, Belichick was introduced as Jets HC; the day after, he resigned. I think the interesting takeaway from the whole story is that the two groups fighting over who got to buy the Jets are two of the top-5 worst major sports owners of the last 50 years ... Woody Johnson and James Dolan. Dolan is arguably the only person on the planet who definitively would have been a worse owner than Woody Johnson.
Informative post. Thanks for that. So it really would be hard to say definitively that Woody drove Bill out of town.
Well, the prospect of either Woody or Dolan owning the team is what caused BB to resign after one day. Then Parcell's declined Woody's plea to return as HC after that went down. I wouldn't say Woody drove Bill out of town, but it sure seems after one year with Woody that he didn't have much desire to stick around, or at least no incentive to.
The incentive part is hard to argue since Parcells was hired so Leon could have a championship before he died by his own words.
This is the dumbest post in the history of the internet. What you basically just said is that you realize Idzik was not good at his job but that Woody should have kept him just to spite his consumers & the media - and further set this organization back by allowing Idzik another year & his own coaching staff (who exactly was going to come here and work for Idzik anyway). Your logic for this absurd plan is that it would somehow prove that despite the fact everyone in the world (except the few blind people who cant admit they are wrong) saw that Idzik was terrible and he should be canned, it would be better to do the search next year because candidates would respect Woody more? Wow. I am happy you don't run my business.
Okay I'll bite. Because he was only in his 2nd year and he was a young yet raw prospect. Now why didn't you put a billboard up last year?
The answer is simple ... everyone knew that the team could not be improved before Sanchez (and his albatross contract was no longer on the team). And whether Sanchez was cut last year, or this year, the contract ramifications would be here until last off-season. So there was literally nothing Idzik (or any other GM) could do to improve the Jets in year one other than the draft. This past year? Idzik had plenty of money to use, chose to use very little of it, and hit no home runs with the money he did spend. And the draft picks he accumulated? He struck out across the board last year - the entire draft sucked and he had 12 picks. So ... in Year 1, he had two first round draft picks (hit one home run and one single, maybe) and no cap room to do anything else. He's not going to get fired for that even if he had little in the way of accomplishments. On the other hand, in year two, he had a full draft (12 picks) where he was terrible and tons of cap space where he chose to use a small portion of it and was terrible with the rest. Personally, I think he was sabotaging this season on purpose (which is inexcusable if you use the performance to fire the coach), but even if his terrible performance was accidental ... it was still godawful and worthy of a firing. I'm not even sure I understand your question as the reasons why he shouldn't have been fired in Year 1, and should have been fired after this past season are so obvious, you'd almost have to play dumb to not get them.
I'm well aware of the situation in Idzik's first year. If you are rebuilding you do not spend up the cap money just because it's there. If you are rebuilding you must maintain cap flexibility. Which is what Idzik did. He spent money on the oline adding Giacomini to play RT, added WR Eric Decker that filled a big need, added Chris Johnson, added Michael Vick. His only mistake was letting Cromartie walk imo. However considering that we were rebuilding young players were going to get playing time to develop. Draft picks tend to take time to develop and Idzik did no better or worse than most teams as far as drafts. So if you really thought ALL the draft choices were going to step in and play like pro bowlers then you're niave. Also NO GM will ever purposefully sabotage a season that's absurd.
Exactly. "Rebuilding" implies that we are putting pieces in place who will be a part of the future. There should be pieces from his 2 years who are ready to contribute. The only pieces he put in place for the future are Sheldon Richardson, maybe Jace Amaro (big maybe), an overpaid Eric Decker and Chris Ivory. That is pretty pathetic. This roster is among the worst rosters in the NFL and one of the worst in the history of the Jets franchise. Before you laugh at that, go look at the talent on the 1-15, 1996 Kotite-lead team. It isn't close. To allow Idzik one more offseason is guaranteeing him three bc you can't let him hire a coach and them fire him otherwise you have to fire the coach too... that scenario was unacceptable to us so we did something about it. You can continue to whine about it or you can do what most other sane people did and accept the reality that the worst GM in franchise history is now the worst ex-GM in franchise history. Embrace the future. Better days are ahead.
