Sanchez Kicking Ass In Philly

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  1. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    not current SD, current SD is playoff good but not SB good but if they had Mark in the mid/late 90s they would have reached a SB.

    twice in 4 tries, only had a half a season this year.

    inherited an offense that got better w/ him against a much tougher schedule. he gave his team a chance.
     
  2. slimjasi

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    The mid/late 90s? I think you mean the mid/late 2000's. And . . . No.

    He inherited the best team he's had since 2010. They were 6-2 and atop their division. They finished 5-4 with him at the helm. That's twice in 5 tries, Junc. And the first one was the gift of all gifts.

    They went 2-3 against playoff teams and lost to the Redskins. They were going to have to beat good teams to make a run. They couldn't. And then, they couldn't beat the Redskins, and Mark threw a ridiculously bad INT in a big spot.
     
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    Oh alright then. What was his role in Philly's D? And in what ways was Philly's defense negatively affected once he was out of the lineup?
     
  4. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    Obviously I meant mid/late 00s and every year they were the hot pick to reach the SB and only came close one time- when Rivers got hurt and the backup led SD on GW TD drive.

    Twice in 4 tries, inherited a very good O and made it better. if you credit him for that season I guess you credit him for another 10+ win season?

    2-3 against final 4 NFC teams isn't bad, is it?

    against teams still standing:

    GB 2-1
    Sea 3-1
    Bal 1-1
    NE 2-1
    Car 0-3
    Dal 2-0
    Ind 1-3
    Den 1-2

    No team faced more teams still alive
     
  5. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    don't know, do know he was a key guy and he was a big loss and he's always been an underrated player. Maybe you can explain?
     
  6. BeastBeach

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    Bahaha. Could you bust out some more terms that mean nothing? "key guy", "big loss", "underrated player"

    Did you even know he was a linebacker? I guess you missed that when you heard his name called on Sportscenter that one time

    Like I said, you know jack shit about football
     
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  7. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    so you can't? you add nothing here other than hurling insults and stoking the flames.

    he was a HUGE loss, the glue to that defense. the leader of that D and a very productive player as well. sort of like Philly's David Harris. all the childish insults don't help your weak arguments. some day you will actually contribute here rather than insult people smarter and better than you.
     
  8. BrucekilledBoomer

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    Let's use some context here, Junc. The Panthers victory came at a time when they were reeling. 7 straight games without a win.
     
  9. BeastBeach

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    Lol "glue to the defense". I bet you have a handy little pocket book full of useful sports cliches.

    The fact is that you can get on here and claim that Demeco Ryans getting hurt caused their D to go downhill but you aren't capable of coming anywhere close to explaining why the D dropped off when he got hurt. What were his responsibilities in the D? What were his strengths? In what ways was Casey Matthews(psst...he's the backup) not able to fill his void?
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    the Philly O scored 31 pts. the rest of the season that D allowed:

    19
    17
    10
    17
    13
    3
    14 in playoffs
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    are you saying he wasn't important? are you saying he wasn't leader of that D?

    you tell me, you know it all. you think Casey Matthews is as good? they had more reasons than just him getting hurt why they struggled down the stretch but if you don't think he was a big reason why you are kidding yourself.
     
  12. BeastBeach

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    lol only you would turn a simple question into me disagreeing. My point is this: You don't know shit.

    It should be pretty easy to back up your statements but it seems you aren't capable. You could prove you have knowledge of this game by answering the questions I posed but we both already know you can't.

    In your next post you will do everything but answer the questions because you don't know.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    you want me to breakdown their defense and his role in it? how silly and something I have never seen you do but you expect me to do it. the bottom line is he was a key player for that D, the leader of that D and was a big loss.
     
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    Predictable.

    Ok how about this: In what areas did their defense suffer after he went out?
     
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    That wasn't the point. You were trying to make the point that the Eagles faced a tough schedule (and I'm not saying they didn't) and then tried to make it sound more impressive than it was by stretching it with the "NFC Final 4". But the Panthers were playing some of the worst football in the league at the time. They followed up the loss to the Eagles with a home loss to an Atlanta team that was on a 6 game losing streak. Then they got buried in Minnesota. This was not a good team when the Eagles played them.
     
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    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    they faced a much tougher schedule and I guess the light went on for Carolina immediately after getting thrashed by Philly?
     
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    You mean when they followed with losses to the Falcons and Vikings? No.
     
  18. nyjunc

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    they started allowing more yards through the air and on the ground and more points. I am sure it was all coincidental though.
     
  19. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    but the D was playing well and the D has keyed this run.

    can we take away the week 2 win vs. Indy since Indy was struggling at the time?
     
  20. BrucekilledBoomer

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    Never said to take any wins back...but let's not try to make something sound more impressive than it is (as impressive as a 2-3 record can be, I guess) by noting that they had to play the NFC final 4 teams. Maybe the Panther defense did get better after the Eagles games. Maybe the offense and special teams didn't put them in so many tough spots (the Eagles had scoring drives of 1 yard/FG, 43 yards/TD, -2 yards/FG, 30 yards/TD) the rest of the season. Maybe they started playing better on the road where in the three prior games to Philly they gave up 38, 37 and 38 points. Who knows? But it's not the same Carolina team now. And even the Carolina team now just reached .500 this past weekend.
     
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