Geno's first 2 years vs some other QBs

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  1. Clark Gaines

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    Of course, the "I don't have time to support my weak @ss argument" argument cloaked in "when he's working at K-Mart" bullsh!t. In contrast, I appreciate your having brought up your arguments and the stats you provided. They were enlightening and confusing and worth my keystrokes, cause, let's face it, keystrokes are cheap.

    Again, I'm not saying that Geno is the answer. I'm saying the answer is definitely improving the 31st ranked OL and a decidedly underwhelming receiving corps as the highest priority, for whomever ends up starting at QB.
     
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    I think you are saying this. You just don't want to put it in fine print.
     
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    Offensive Line Pass Blocking Efficiency
    The Pro Football Focus "Pass Blocking Efficiency" rating measures pressure allowed on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks allowed.
    # Team Passing Plays Sacks Allowed Hits Allowed Hurries Allowed Total Pressure Allowed PBE
    1 DEN 626 12 25 74 111 86.2
    2 GB 595 18 18 76 112 85.1
    3 CIN 546 12 22 71 104 85.0
    4 BLT 583 13 21 83 117 84.4
    5 DAL 518 9 17 81 107 84.1
    6 CLV 550 17 23 75 115 83.5
    7 PIT 651 22 18 106 146 82.3
    8 JAX 649 31 23 95 149 81.6
    9 PHI 672 15 31 115 161 81.5
    10 OAK 668 17 20 125 162 81.2
    11 NYG 644 19 27 111 157 81.0
    12 WAS 629 29 26 100 155 80.4
    13 HST 548 8 27 107 142 80.2
    14 CHI 672 20 28 127 175 79.7
    14 NYJ 588 10 30 116 156 79.7

     
  4. Clark Gaines

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    What Geno Smith needs to
    No, I'm saying that we've seen the OL and underwhelming WR corps undermine the QB for the last FOUR years. I'm tired of watching the Jets slow-motion offense and then turning on a REAL game and seeing WRs wide open and QBs with gobs of time to throw to them.

    And I'm saying that it makes the most sense to upgrade the talent on the OL and WR corps (TE seems upgraded and RB seems--well, who really cares, it's running) before making any permanent decision on the QB spot.

    Now, I'm not the smartest person around, but I liked Sanchez. I thought he would be a solid player. He threw a deep ball well when he had Holmes and Edwards. But then in his third year the Jets asked him to carry the offense. This, after they had stripped the OL and receiver corps. And he failed miserably. To me, it's the same position they've put Geno Smith in: perform with a shitty line--it's shittiest being at the OG position where blitzes have their greatest effect--and crappy WRs. That's a recipe for failure, just as it was for Sanchez.

    Geno Smith made some dumb plays. Plenty of them, like the fumble he had against Miami, holding the ball out from his body while trying to stiff-arm a defender. It's those types of plays that make people upset. I can live with an INT. ALL QBs have them. I don't like Pick Sixes or stupid sacks. There's no question in my mind that Smith has the talents of a good QB: strong arm, mobility, improving accuracy. It's the headquarters that needs the most improvement. But I think that's the easiest thing to improve because it comes with experience (if it is ever going to come).

    I feel the Jets QB plays with the least margin for error: pourous OL and below average size and speed at the WR position (Decker has size, but not speed; Harvin came late and was injured a lot). I'd like to see the Jets with arguably THE BEST OL and THE BEST WRs...or at least in the top 10-15. They have been garbage for the last couple of years or more.
     
  5. slimjasi

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    The offensive line was wildly inconsistent this year and had some very bad days. (Our OL play in the second Buffalo game was shockingly bad).

    Geno is very likely going to get a chance to come back here, but I also think he's very likely going to be a back-up. Will he ever be more than that? Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath. His decision-making and ability to handle the rush both leave a lot to be desired.
     
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    Odds are not fantastic we have a better option than Geno next year. Not much on the veteran FA front, so likely a developmental competition pick in 3rd or 4th
     
  7. LongIslandBlitz

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    Only geno smith can have the worst QB rating 0.0 (Buffalo game)and the only perfect one all season at 158.3 wtf are you suppose to make of that?
     
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    He's like a ten year old asking why he can't drink beer like his daddy
     
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    Lol. Don't you guys see. Miami wants Geno to stay. They wanted to lower our draft pick and keep Jameis from being a Jet.
     
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    geno-coaster gonna geno-coaster.

    inconsistency is the name of Smiths game when you get down to it.
     
  11. GangGreenBlues

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    The only reason he had a 0.0 rating in the first Buffalo game was because he got pulled right in the beginning. He obviously wouldn't have had a good rating in that game after that start, but had he stayed in, I am guessing he would've calmed down and finished with some regularly bad rating like 30-50. To put it in perspective, that Bills defense did the following to Aaron Rogers later in the season: 17/42, 0TD - 2INTs and 34.3 QB Rating. That's the best QB in the league, so yeah...

    Btw, if Geno stayed in that game and finished with a 30+ or so rating, AND if the Jets didn't have the gameplan they did in the first Miami game which made Geno have a 35 rating, he would've most likely finished with the same QB Rating for the season as the beloved Teddy Bridgewater. :)
     
  12. legler82

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    It's the o-line's fault.
     
  13. FlaJet

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    Good one..
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