If he is offered a contract.....the Jets will try to backload it. If marrone really wants to be HC of the NYJ he will accept a lesser amount the first year with escalating amounts later on. He has all the leverage in the world so it's risky for the jets to do this if they really want him but that's what I would offer initially. If he refuses then move on, he has other motives.
Last year at this time media types (and the team's owner) are all singing the praises of a coach who just went 8-8 with a crappy QB situation and who "rallied the team under adversity" Sound familiar? I also don't get all the glory to Marrone for the win in Detroit over the Jets. Jets were a 2-win team with nothing to play for. It's not as if they blew out Seattle. It's not as if he single handedly shovelled snow and rescued the players from their homes. He got the team on a bus and got them ready to play one of the worst teams in the league in front of basically a home crowd inside a cozy dome.
That's a load of crap. You don't bring in someone inferior just "because" they haven't had their chance. By that thinking let's go bring in Charlie Weiss because he hasn't had his "crack" at the NY Jets. Forget that he's failed at every single stop he's had. Unbelievable....
Can we get all of these Marrone threads merged? The same convo is happening in three different places.
He's a hot candidate because he's one of the few guys out there who is not a retread and who actually ran a successful college program before he ran a moderately successful Bills program. All the other head coach candidates with experience have been fired as head coaches before. Marrone took his out and lands on the market as a guy who has never been fired as a head coach, coming off the best season his team has had in a decade. That he benched a 1st round QB to get there is particularly impressive. That's a really hard move to make when you've invested the pick and the guy hasn't totally stunk but Marrone didn't like what he saw out of Manuel and he went to the vet and the Bills played better after that decision.
Manesh checking in. Looks like Marrone is our man Follow Manish Mehta@MMehtaNYDN RT @garymyersNYDN In the last 2 years, Doug Marrone quit on Syracuse, my alma matter and his alma mater, and now the Bills. #nyj
No, it's a load of crap to say you'd rather have Rex Ryan back. It's like you don't watch the games. No fan should want him back. I am just saying you can think Marrone is a bad choice, maybe he is, but I would much rather give someone else a chance than go back to Rex. That is ridiculous to say.
We're it not for Marrone and his bumboy OC Kyle Orton would have looked a lot better, and better than he actually is. They should have just let him call his own plays. They would have been much further ahead. You could read his disgust at the high school level play calls all over his face. You cannot imagine a more mind numbing predictable offence than a Marrone offence. It is incredibly easy to shut down.
By quitting Syracuse you mean taking more money to life a dream of being an NFL head coach? Something that has been happening since the end of time with jobs, nevermind football head coaching gigs. You know the concept of promotion for being wanted/value and getting more perks as a result? Please stop following that fool.
Coslet - 4 years Carroll - 1 year Kotex - 2 years Tuna - 3 years Groh - 1 year Edwards - 5 years Mangenius - 3 years Ryan - 6 years ????? - ????? Why do I get the feeling we are due for another 1-2 year quickie.
I would definitely interview him to see if he's improved his people skills and other areas of weakness on his first go round. he helped develop the teams rex had success with.
Unbelievable...no...I want the best coach available. That is where my mindset is at. I'm not into going backwards just for something "new." What kind of thinking is that??
I don't know, I'd say Sanu would be a very good WR and true deep threat if he were on this team. Unfortunately, as you said, he's got Dalton throwing to him and yet still manages to get a few 100 yard games. I don't know about Jackson being a top tier HC. His sample size is too small to make that determination. If he was that good of a coach then why when he came back to the Bengals, after being fired by the Raiders, did he do so as an ass't. def backs coach and special teams coach? You would think that at the very least he would've still been an offensive coach when he came back. He also interviewed with the Panthers for their OC job and was passed over for that in 2013. His one season in Oakland looks pretty good but it's not a lot to go off. Maybe he's worth a look but not sold on him.
That's a very good point, the fact that he hasn't been fired before. My biggest problem with him is I don't really believe he's an expert at anything, though he may be a good team manager. His experience is with O-line, yet the Jets had a pretty bad OLine when he was here and the moves he made with the Bills made their OLine worse too, apparently. Add that to the fact that he wasn't able to get production out of some good players: CJ Spiller before injury, Robert Woods, etc. I'm not sure if that says more about his ability or Hackett's, though. In any case, it seems that if we hire Marrone we will need both a good OC and a good DC, but maybe that's for the best. Bills fans are sore right now because he just left the team so I don't trust their judgment regarding his ability, but he hasn't really proven anything yet either.