Of course we want to see improvements. But it should be understood that with the way Idzik was trying to build the team, that it was going to take time. Draft picks that aren't contributing now are being developed for the future, when you put young unproven guys in key spots you get bad results sometimes. I want a long sustained success, not a quick fix with a short window. It takes time to evaluate and sees who works and who doesn't. Until you have your core players for a possible contender. But this strong candidate you speak of will have options. Only bottom barrel guys will jump on this job because it's an opportunity to be a GM. The assistant GM in Baltimore isn't jumping to come here despite every year teams are constantly trying to get him. You don't think its an issue but it is. Potential GM's will look at the pros and cons and evaluate the situation. Does Woody want to do a REAL rebuild or does he want a quick fix? If he wants a REAL rebuild then he must be patient with the GM and coach and he must back his guys through a NY media shit storm and fan apathy. If he wants a quick fix and it doesn't work out then he must allow the GM to undo his mistakes and fix whatever problems that arise. With the way Woody likes to throw people under the bus can a potential GM trust him? The Idzik situation is something that will be on a gm's mind whether you agree or not.
Idzik failed miserably in the draft last year that was key to his overall plan of long term sustained success...he will not see another GM job.
Marty put us in position to win many times and then he completely fell apart. It's a full house clean, he will be gone; right or wrong. You are right, there are a lot of areas at fault with the 2014 NYJ, but let's not forget the mess that was left before Idzik; back then we didn't say it was a 2 year rebuild; it was several years at least; I thought Idzik had us back on the right track. New GM will hire new coach and new coach will hire his OC (maybe it will be Marty who knows?). At least that is how it should work.
Again, you can write numerous paragraphs on why Idzik "got a raw deal" and why any GM will be hesitant to take this job. You cannot, however, state any of what you just wrote as fact. Whether I agree or not, you just SPECULATED on the state of mind of all the candidates, based solely on what YOU consider to be important. As I stated, there are many good reasons why a person of strong character would take this job. And I think most candidates will look at the job Mr. Idzik did and understand fully why he was fired. He did nothing to distinguish himself as an architect of a successful rebuild. The Jets needed a few things to improve on 8-8. He provided them with none of those things. You can say he was on a different timetable, but the owner, by virtue of keeping Rex on, communicated quite clearly what his timetable was. Finally, there's really no legitimate reason for a long rebuilding process in the modern NFL in all but a few cases. The Jets, in my opinion (and the owner's apparently), were not among those cases.
Great post - couldn't have articulated it better myself. In my opinion if a GM candidate is reluctant to take the job because of what happened to Idzik then he's being foolish. The Jets don't have a history under Johnson of instability, of constantly hiring and firing GMs, he gave Bradway a long leash, even offering a job after the pink slip, and he gave Tannenbaum a long leash as well. With Idzik he only got out early because the guy was not up to the task. That's how he will swing it too in the interviews. I actually think the GM position here is more attractive than the HC position and more attractive now than in 2012... HCs are too closely tied to the QB and the Jets don't have one. GMs are more closely tied to their resources available and HCs. The Jets have plenty of resources available right now with lots of cap room, friendly contracts and a top ten draft pick. Plus the GM will be able to choose his HC.
I hope we bring coach Dunbar back. He'll likely follow Rex anywhere but he can't to the booth. Our D-line loves this guy and he's obviously done a tremendous job. I'm hoping the new regime can keep him hired at the same position but if Rex goes to Atlanta he's gone. Is Marty fired too? Dirk Koetter would be a good candidate for the OC job.
WTF? I'm sure you'd be at every game decked out in Clemson gear if your son was even the waterboy for a D-1 football team.
He's saying how much he loves the Jets. Just talk as expected. His last appearance at Florham Park show some support and allegiance to the team. And the fans. It's not just about you.
Good teams find quality offensive linemen in the first two rounds now and then. Idzick put a band-aid on the problem. Patience has nothing to do with it. In five years, Brian Winters will still suck.
Most starting O-linemen aren't top draft picks. It's a position routinely filled later on in the draft. The Jets O-line is not terrible. We have good vets like Brick and Mangold. It's in a rebuild. I would definitely pick O-linemen in 2015.
How do Idzik apologists reconcile the bold. Rex will most likely get another chance to be a HC but odds are Idzik will never hold the position he held here ever again.
I don't think a lot of GMs get a second chance, they may be hired in a supporting role within an organization, like Tanny and Pioli. HC on the other hand get multiple opportunities, and it's been proven that sometimes a change of scenery and different assistants change the chemistry which produces a winning formula.
Rex's passion for this football team, especially his players is the one thing that should never be doubted. There's no way put on a front like your suggesting when each player would go to war for him and most of the team has stated how sad they are to see him go.
Funny you mentioned those 2 as I think both may get another shot down the line. At the very least they have a better chance at another GM than Idzik ever will.
The idea that quality starters on OL can easily be found later in the draft is often repeated but is simply not true. The linemen with the best combination of strength, agility, and skill will go off the board in the first two rounds more often than not. There is a reason that three of the top ten picks last year were left tackles. Sure good players at any position can and will be drafted later. That does not mean that a team can depend on that kind of luck. Just because Tom Brady was found in round six does not mean we should wait on QB because we can find one there too. Herm Edwards and Rex Ryan have both let their OL go to shit before losing their jobs. Each of them inherited one of the best offensive lines in the league and had playoff success as a result. Both of them insisted on high draft picks to build their defense while neglecting the OL and had losing records to show for it in the end. The Eagles, Cowboys, and Steelers (teams that recently used first round picks on interior linemen) are more successful than us on offense.
