You don't rebuild around 30 year olds. By making 30 year olds a key part of your strategy, you are essentially saying that you are NOT going to rebuild, but will just plug in veteran players into holes, and be a mediocre-to-decent team, without shooting for anything better. If you want to build a real contender, on the other hand, you build around young players, some of whom will work out and some will not, but you keep doing that until you find your pieces. Idzik correctly built around young players (Geno, Richardson, Milliner, McDougle, Pryor, Aboushi, Decker, Ivory, Harvin, etc). Some of them worked out, some did not, some it's not clear yet, but the approach is correct. It just needs more time.
30 year olds aren't dead. The Jets put themselves into so much of a whole with shit drafting that they'll need to use cap space to improve.
Nobody is saying not to use cap space. Idzik is not only building through the draft, he traded for Ivory and Harvin and signed Decker among others. But the idea is when you are rebuilding, to take your time and use the cap space on good younger players, not aging veterans. Ivory was 25 when we got him, Harvin 26, Decker also 26.
What was so embarrassing about it. Except for the presser. The only joke is the owner whose the one who really doesn't know what he's doing.
Idzik has got to go. Doesn't have a major eye for talent via the draft and can't work with the HC. I hope he's gone come Monday or demoted a cap specialists
We'll never know the entire story but it seems like he really tried to work with Rex. On the surface they seemed to get along. And as far as I'm concerned the one whose the snake in the grass if there is one isn't Idzik.
So here's the thing, you can't absolve John Idzik of what the Jets went through this year. Many of the biggest flaws in the team were direct results of decisions that he either made or approved of. That's what being the GM is. You're the guy who ultimately has the most say over the roster. That said, he didn't really do that many catastrophic things that lead to where we are right now. Not buying a free agent CB at top price was a good sound move. Having Dee Milliner and Dexter McDougle go down for the year AFTER that decision was made was just a very unlucky sequence of events. Some times that happens and people get fired for getting unlucky every day in every walk of life. Letting Austin Howard walk to the Raiders to play guard for them instead of giving him a lot of guaranteed money to play tackle for the Jets was the right move. Rehiring Willie Colon to play RG for the Jets was not the right move. Colon is a penalty machine and alongside Breno Giacomini, who is cheaper by a lot than Howard would have been, the penalties have mounted and become a significant factor in the failures of the offense. Some times people get fired when the mix they create proves worse than the combined talents of the parts. The Jets haven't been looking at a young RG the last couple of seasons they've been watching the last years of a veteran and not particularly good years at that. The offensive line hasn't gelled in front of Geno the way you'd hope it would. Signing Michael Vick was a pretty good move but almost immediately we discovered that he was just here for insurance, as he told us this at every opportunity. Then we got into the season and Geno began to falter after a "good" spring and summer and it took forever to get him off the field. The season was over before Geno was relieved of his QBing duties. Some times you make the right moves at key positions but then can't pull the trigger on implementing them. People get fired for that when it happens. Finally, John Idzik didn't have the ability to tell Rex Ryan what to do on a game by game basis. No GM does, not even when the GM hired the HC. The fantasy that this year developed on the field the way it did because of moves John Idzik and the personnel staff made during the offseason is just that: a fantasy. 3-12 happens when the head coach is handed no talent at all or when the head coach does a crappy job of managing his staff and team and they spend a lot of time running around like chickens with their heads cut off on the field and on the sidelines. That's why the Jets are 3-12 right now. Rex did a bad job of coaching them this year. Some times the GM gets fired when the HC has a very bad year.
Its still VERY hard for me to vote to fire a GM in 2 years. I would give Idzik one more year. Call me crazy
Funny as that sounds you are right..if you check his history he was always, the assistant to the assistant of the gm... He's probable a good 12 th man, he's no leader of a franchise.. Only the stupid jets would trust him with that task lol
The one thing about Rex after Idzik came on board was he toned it down. And minced his words. Everything was "we" and "the organization" and you just got the feeling that he (Rex) was capitulating to pressure brought on by the organization. The media lamented that the old Rex was gone replaced by a less flamboyant new Rex, a guy they didn't like and blamed on Idzik. We all know what a circus it was before Idzik. And in the past few weeks the circus elements have returned. Thanks to the owner.
So much for the idea that firejohnidzik.com represents the "vocal minority" of Jets fans - as some like to continually say.
Congratulations. You might have gotten your wish in which case we are at zero next year and starting over. Enjoy the show.
First of all there's a lot more important things going on in the world than firing Idzik. So to hire an airplane and spend your hard earned money for that is moronic. Why not hire the plane and say something important like: END POVERTY. Idzik is the least of our problems.
What starting over? You have the roster, you have free agency, you have the draft, you have the after draft free agents. It's the same whether Idzik or someone competent is running things. And, please, can someone tell me how "Idzik's Plan" is any different than, say, any other GM's plan? You build through the draft and you use Free Agency to plug the holes. The problem with Idzik's plan: he doesn't know talent and he's always bargain shopping.
I'll take bargain shopping vs overspending for has beens. Or guys the organization grades inferior to their asking price. That's how the smart organizations operate. But some Jets fans only care about getting a quick fix and the wow factor.
And then there's paying an appropriate rate for quality. Your arguments get more and more hysterical as evidence mounts. He failed. Jets fans shouldn't have to wait two more drafts to see all the misses just so you can say "well, we gave him every opportunity..." Fuck no. We gave him two offseasons and the Jets are now no better than they were before he was hired. (I'm sorry, but having a butt load of cap space when it's clear he doesn't know how to use it is not in a better place.)
but then idzik gets the option to hire his own HC after this season. Keeping Idzik and letting him pick his own HC is at least at least another 3 year commitment. Do we fire his head coach after his first season too? No more half measures. This team fucked up by not firing both rex and tannenbaum at the same time, and thats what landed us a shitty and unqualified gm. I am not interested in repeating that process.
