The angry Jets mob will get its wish: Idzik’s a goner (speculation)

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  1. James Hasty

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    The angry Jets mob will get its wish: Idzik’s a goner
    By Steve Serby

    December 21, 2014 | 1:00am

    His crimes against Jets humanity are well documented. So it is Penalty Flag Day at MetLife Stadium on Sunday, when the angry mob gives it to general manager John Idzik, and gives it to him good, and all this Christmas jeer washes over coach Rex Ryan on the last day he gets to coach his dream team at home against Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and the Patriots.

    Roughing the GM.

    The outrage, directed to Jets owner Woody Johnson, will be painful to witness, four nights before Christmas and all through the crumbling house, but it comes with the territory, especially when a long-suffering fan base that hasn’t won anything in 46 years feels as though it was sold a bill of goods and betrayed.

    It seems preposterous that those who feel compelled to throw their yellow flag on Idzik (Fire Idzik! Clean house!) for intentional grounding of the 2014 season will view him as every bit the villain as Belichick, but the embattled GM might want to borrow Bobby Bonilla’s old earplugs just the same, because if Belichick is Public Enemy No. 1, Idzik is No. 1a. Or vice versa.

    And if Idzik tries to throw the challenge flag for taunting, for unsportsmanlike conduct, for piling on, he will have the same luck as Knicks coach Derek Fisher attempting to get the official’s attention to call a timeout.

    Idzik is Scrooge, walking into one loud “Scrooge you!”

    Ryan, for sure, is not without blame. In training camp, when he told his players this was the team he dreamed of coaching and revealed his grand ambition of sweeping the Patriots and ambushing them at home in the playoffs, he never said a peep about being saddled with Dee Milliner and Dimitri Patterson at cornerback. He either trusted quarterback Geno Smith, or was ordered to trust Geno Smith, and never gave Michael Vick a chance. He may have remained the face of the franchise, but everybody could see he was wearing a corporate mask handed him by the GM.

    No one, least of all the owner, expected 3-11 when 2013 ended. There was so much joy in Jetville in the visiting locker room in Miami at the end of the regular season when Idzik put his arm around Ryan and bellowed, “This is our coach!” Then the two of them returned home for a press conference where they sat side by side and Idzik pronounced them joined at the hip and both proclaimed their 8-8 Jets an ascending team.

    The descent, and eventual crash, began in earnest on draft day, when Idzik used all 12 of his picks and landed two players (safety Calvin Pryor and tight end Jace Amaro) who made minimal impacts. You generally wait three years to grade a draft, but no one, not even Ryan, would dare give him an A-plus grade for passing on one of the best wide receiver classes in a generation — passing on the likes of Brandin Cooks, Kelvin Benjamin, Jordan Matthews, Paul Richardson, Jarvis Landry, Marqise Lee, Allen Robinson, John Brown, Martavis Bryant to complement his free-agent prize, Eric Decker. The draft, remember, was trumpeted by Idzik when he arrived as the lifeblood of the organizational rebuilding blueprint.

    Of all his failures, Idzik’s biggest was getting the quarterback wrong. He put all of Johnson’s eggs in Smith’s basket, and look how scrambled they are now. Any hope that the Jets could close the gap on the Patriots hinged on Smith picking up where he left off at the end of his rookie season and taking that next step. Instead, Smith took one misstep after another.

    He missed a team meeting, cursed a fan, was mercifully benched, and announced he had shown flashes of being a Pro Bowl quarterback when he returned. All in all, Smith had too many Jets fans yearning for the good old days of Mark Sanchez. Even the bad old days.

    It meant that Ryan, whose signature moment was upsetting the Patriots on the road in the 2010 playoffs with Sanchez, had as much chance of overthrowing the Brady-Belichick Evil Empire as Herm Edwards had with Chad Pennington, and Eric Mangini had with Pennington and Brett Favre. Especially with a defense Ryan vastly overrated.

    Ryan, who certainly won’t be remembered as a quarterback whisperer, only can fantasize about how it would have turned out differently if he had Brady on his side. But he won’t. At least until he writes his memoirs.

    “That’s obviously what you’re looking for,” he said. “You’re looking for the next Tom Brady. You’re looking for the next Peyton Manning. Those two guys, I always lump ’em both together, because in my opinion, has there really been any better than those two guys? And I guess you can put the [Aaron] Rodgers kid in that as well. But it’s like that’s as good as it gets, but I guess the fantasy thing comes on trying to find the next like that and hope that it hits in your watch.

    “Obviously, every team in the league’s trying to do the same thing, you’re trying to get that guy, but we’ll see. And I’m not comparing Geno to Tom Brady, but hopefully he keeps making strides and things like that. But clearly, every team in the league’s looking to find the next Tom Brady. It’s a lot easier said than done.”

    There are very few who trust Idzik to find anything better than the next Vernon Gholston. The natives weren’t nearly as restless about former GM Mike Tannenbaum when Johnson fired him at the end of a 6-10 season. The owner has seen the “Fire Idzik” planes overhead and the billboards and inadvertently favorited an angry tweet. He won’t be able to miss the pleas for action from his suite.

    The circus was supposed to have left town when Idzik arrived. The Big Top returned with a vengeance.

    There is no electoral college to save Idzik. His future most likely will be decided by popular vote, and it will be a landslide.

    Ridzik.
     
  2. NYJalltheway

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    Misleading..made it seem like you had insider information knowing he is gone. This is just speculation.
     
  3. JetsNation06

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    We'll see. At this point in time, I have zero faith whatsoever in Woody to make the right decision. This offseason will be as much about Woodrow Johnson proving his worth as a passionate, hungry owner to this fanbase as anything else.
     
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    December 21, 2014 | 1:00am

    His crimes against Jets humanity are well documented. So it is Penalty Flag Day at MetLife Stadium on Sunday, when the angry mob gives it to general manager John Idzik, and gives it to him good, and all this Christmas jeer washes over coach Rex Ryan on the last day he gets to coach his dream team at home against Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and the Patriots.

    Roughing the GM.

    The outrage, directed to Jets owner Woody Johnson, will be painful to witness, four nights before Christmas and all through the crumbling house, but it comes with the territory, especially when a long-suffering fan base that hasn’t won anything in 46 years feels as though it was sold a bill of goods and betrayed.

    It seems preposterous that those who feel compelled to throw their yellow flag on Idzik (Fire Idzik! Clean house!) for intentional grounding of the 2014 season will view him as every bit the villain as Belichick, but the embattled GM might want to borrow Bobby Bonilla’s old earplugs just the same, because if Belichick is Public Enemy No. 1, Idzik is No. 1a. Or vice versa.

    And if Idzik tries to throw the challenge flag for taunting, for unsportsmanlike conduct, for piling on, he will have the same luck as Knicks coach Derek Fisher attempting to get the official’s attention to call a timeout.

    Idzik is Scrooge, walking into one loud “Scrooge you!”

    Ryan, for sure, is not without blame. In training camp, when he told his players this was the team he dreamed of coaching and revealed his grand ambition of sweeping the Patriots and ambushing them at home in the playoffs, he never said a peep about being saddled with Dee Milliner and Dimitri Patterson at cornerback. He either trusted quarterback Geno Smith, or was ordered to trust Geno Smith, and never gave Michael Vick a chance. He may have remained the face of the franchise, but everybody could see he was wearing a corporate mask handed him by the GM.

    No one, least of all the owner, expected 3-11 when 2013 ended. There was so much joy in Jetville in the visiting locker room in Miami at the end of the regular season when Idzik put his arm around Ryan and bellowed, “This is our coach!” Then the two of them returned home for a press conference where they sat side by side and Idzik pronounced them joined at the hip and both proclaimed their 8-8 Jets an ascending team.

    The descent, and eventual crash, began in earnest on draft day, when Idzik used all 12 of his picks and landed two players (safety Calvin Pryor and tight end Jace Amaro) who made minimal impacts. You generally wait three years to grade a draft, but no one, not even Ryan, would dare give him an A-plus grade for passing on one of the best wide receiver classes in a generation — passing on the likes of Brandin Cooks, Kelvin Benjamin, Jordan Matthews, Paul Richardson, Jarvis Landry, Marqise Lee, Allen Robinson, John Brown, Martavis Bryant to complement his free-agent prize, Eric Decker. The draft, remember, was trumpeted by Idzik when he arrived as the lifeblood of the organizational rebuilding blueprint.

    Of all his failures, Idzik’s biggest was getting the quarterback wrong. He put all of Johnson’s eggs in Smith’s basket, and look how scrambled they are now. Any hope that the Jets could close the gap on the Patriots hinged on Smith picking up where he left off at the end of his rookie season and taking that next step. Instead, Smith took one misstep after another.

    He missed a team meeting, cursed a fan, was mercifully benched, and announced he had shown flashes of being a Pro Bowl quarterback when he returned. All in all, Smith had too many Jets fans yearning for the good old days of Mark Sanchez. Even the bad old days.

    It meant that Ryan, whose signature moment was upsetting the Patriots on the road in the 2010 playoffs with Sanchez, had as much chance of overthrowing the Brady-Belichick Evil Empire as Herm Edwards had with Chad Pennington, and Eric Mangini had with Pennington and Brett Favre. Especially with a defense Ryan vastly overrated.

    Ryan, who certainly won’t be remembered as a quarterback whisperer, only can fantasize about how it would have turned out differently if he had Brady on his side. But he won’t. At least until he writes his memoirs.

    “That’s obviously what you’re looking for,” he said. “You’re looking for the next Tom Brady. You’re looking for the next Peyton Manning. Those two guys, I always lump ’em both together, because in my opinion, has there really been any better than those two guys? And I guess you can put the [Aaron] Rodgers kid in that as well. But it’s like that’s as good as it gets, but I guess the fantasy thing comes on trying to find the next like that and hope that it hits in your watch.

    “Obviously, every team in the league’s trying to do the same thing, you’re trying to get that guy, but we’ll see. And I’m not comparing Geno to Tom Brady, but hopefully he keeps making strides and things like that. But clearly, every team in the league’s looking to find the next Tom Brady. It’s a lot easier said than done.”

    There are very few who trust Idzik to find anything better than the next Vernon Gholston. The natives weren’t nearly as restless about former GM Mike Tannenbaum when Johnson fired him at the end of a 6-10 season. The owner has seen the “Fire Idzik” planes overhead and the billboards and inadvertently favorited an angry tweet. He won’t be able to miss the pleas for action from his suite.

    The circus was supposed to have left town when Idzik arrived. The Big Top returned with a vengeance.

    There is no electoral college to save Idzik. His future most likely will be decided by popular vote, and it will be a landslide.

    Ridzik.[/QUOTE]
    Thank U Serby for saying all the things I have been saying thru my years here on the TGG:mad:
     
  5. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I must have missed the part where it said idzik is fired?
     
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    If Idzik gets fired it could be related to his failed presser when he looked anything but the GM of a New York professional team. You've never seen any of the NY teams GMs look so uncomfortable and out of their element as Idzik did on that day, Here are the NY GMs I'm talking about: Reese with the Giants (he's not that great either with the press but nothing like Idzik esp that day). Sandy Alderson with the Mets is pretty polished, Cashman-Yankees is experienced and can handle it, Lou L. with the Devils is in charge, Sather with the Rangers-not that good but ok, Garth Snow-Islanders-ok, not over his head, Phil Jackson-10 rings, Billy King-experienced and ok. It's part of the job talking to the press esp in NYC. Some of the rougher guys can't forgive Idzik for his flaws in terms of feeding them info. He also supposedly put a muzzle on Rex and tried to cut off the leaks. Still plenty of leaks but not as many. They resent it and have gone after him.
     
  7. displacedfan

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    If Woody is upset because Idzik had a plan and hasn't live up to it, fire him. If Idizik and Woody discussed a longer plan, potentially changing coaches, and Idzik is on target, then don't fire him b/c of some people making noise.
     
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    You know who else is terrible with the press? Belichick... The only thing dumber than the local sports media would be letting anyone's relationship with them affect anything of consequence.
     
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    bingo
     
  10. JetsFan

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    If Idzik is not gone after this season, I will be as a Jets fan. I will not be part of the Kotite 2.0 years.
     
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    Idzik gets fired because he inherited what was deemed the worst roster in the NFL and has not improved that roster after 2 full offseasons. This business is about results, and I am sure he might have some long term plan but you cannot throw away seasons, especially not in year two. Year two is go-time, its not time to take a breather, he failed, he has had overall bad drafts, bad signings, etc.

    The end.
     
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    While the article doesn't actually state that Idzik will be fired, be clearly should be. He simply has no clue what he is doing and his decisions have almost all failed. That, in and of itself, warrants a change.
     
  13. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    one more reason to hope idzik stays.
     
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    Same here man I got really excited
     
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    Bye
     
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    You haven't been paying attention. Kotite 2.0 is already happening.
     
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    He inherited a 6-10 ball club with Revis, Cromartie, Sanchez, and other viable players that he got rid of. It was not the worst roster in the NFL when he got here, but it sure is close now.
     
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    If Idzik gets fired he'll get a job withe Hawks pronto. Look how Tanny did after he left. And the douches at NFL today are already picking out Rex's job. We're the ones left outside of Metlife with a See You Next September sign.
     
  19. Dierking

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    The stupidity of this post is staggering.

    First, you aren't on the team or employed by it, so you're not going to be a part of anything other than by watching it on TV. Your contribution won't be missed.

    More importantly, do you even know what precipitated Rick Kotite? "I'm old. I want to win now." Sound familiar?
     
  20. Br4d

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    If Idzik gets fired it will be because the QB situation just become untenable this season. Small assist to Dee Milliner getting hurt which scotched any chance the Jets had of running a decent Cover 2 this year. The Jets have been a bit better recently on defense mainly because the QB's they've faced have been worse.
     

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