Just because Idzik is involved in picking a new HC does not mean that his job is safe. It just means that Idzik is planning for the scenario where he does not get fired - which is just common sense. Until they tell him he's fired he has to keep going as though he will be the GM next year, even if that's a one in a thousand chance. If Idzik does get fired, then his plans just get discarded. The new GM will already have his own plans, and will use those. He won't be bound by Idzik's plans. The other possibility is that WJ wants Idzik to try to get Harbaugh, rather than try to negotiate a trade himself.
If Idzik is still around I could certainly see us being well under the cap again. Probably not $30M, but somewhere in the $10-15M range. Until we have an answer at QB I don't think he's going to fully commit, and he doesn't seem the type to abandon his plan completely because of a poor season and a few billboards. If he believes in his plan, he'll stick with it. He'll certainly have to adjust his approach a bit as I'm sure he realises he wouldn't survive another season of this type, but there will be more cheap stopgap FAs and he'll only commit long-term to signings he thinks represent fair value for money for what they bring to the team.
If the Jets really are looking to make a trade for Harbaugh it makes sense to have Idzik doing the negotiating. Owners always buy high on coaches when they trade for them. That's because they're trading with other owners and nobody knows the desperation of an owner like another owner. Idzik is a very good front man for that kind of negotiation because the 49ers won't know how far he's prepared to go to land "his" guy and if the Jets aren't doing well in the negotiations Woody Johnson can always push Idzik aside and restart them with somebody else. The 49ers would undoubtedly like Harbaugh out of the NFC next season and out of the Bay area. The Raiders accomplish only one of those goals.
But if he looks at a 3-11 football team and decides he likes what he sees in the front office, he's not spineless? I have the feeling the narrative when Idzik gets his walking papers is going to be that Woody caved to fan pressure but the reality is he might just decide the guy sucks at his job himself.
If Woody keeps idzik and fires Rex Jets players need to come out and say after their contracts are done they will not be returning to this team. To have Idzik sabotage this team and leave Rex in an unfavorable position to perform well, 2yrs in a row at that, is unfair and in all honesty as much as i love my Jets i wouldnt be upset to see woody's team suffer under the new regime. I might take great pleasure in watching his team crash and burn. If Rex is gone I do not see Mo Wilk, Snacks, Kenrick Ellis re-signing with us. Why should they? What is the incentive to play for a team that would purposely set their coach up to fail. Rex changed his personality for these clowns and look what they are about to do to him. If idzik is still here and not Rex I don't care what y'all here think of me but Ill be routing for this team to fail every Sunday til we have a new owner. I will always remain loyal to my jets but I do not support the injustice that has taken place with the guys in the front office.
The decision should be based on whether Woody Johnson believes there's an effective plan in place. A decision made for any other reason will be a subpar decision. I don't think the decision is going to be made based on public pressure or a fan campaign. That's like putting a bullseye on your back in this environment. I think the decision is going to be made based on how Woody Johnson thinks the plan is proceeding. I don't know which way things are going to go at this point. I don't think anybody does, even Woody Johnson.
I agree with this and that's how I think it will go down, just a guess Idzik will be fired.. I'm just saying when it does you'll have people saying the fans ran Idzik out of town. Probably the same fans who make fun of the billboard campaign saying it accomplishes nothing which will be ironic considering they had both viewpoints.
This has been and continues to be a dysfunctional franchise The only thing to do at this point is to clean house from top to bottom. Then keep your fingers crossed that the next group will be able to win over this core group of players and turn this mess around.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Idzik placed in another role. Hell, Bradway has been around since the great depression, so why not have him stick around.
He is in year 2 of a rebuild. Why cave in to pressure by a blood thirsty NY media and inpatient fans? When we went 8-8 last year was Idzik bad then? We had a horrible year and he's "bad". Give him time to implement his plan. This just proves that you cannot rebuild in NY. I'm tired of the constant retooling and signing a bunch of mercenaries. I want stability I want what teams like the Packers, Steelers etc have. Fuck inpatient fans that would rather blow through the cap space and then hope to be 9-7 and maybe sneak in the playoffs as a wild card. Fuck that. I want 12-4, and 13-3. If going 3-13 in 2014 helps towards the long term goal then I'll take it.
Idzik was a unique candidate in the sense that he had personnel experience as well as being proficient with the cap. It's too soon to give up on him.
Which is why he's going to make a dumb decision. How well has that worked out in the past for him? A bunch of dipshits putting up a billboard and some armchair GMs in a Jets fan site shouldn't sway the owner of an NFL team.
Yeah, he's a smart guy who has seen a bunch of franchises go from bitter worst to a Super Bowl while he was with them or in close proximity to his employment. He has a kind of unqiue perspective on what you need to do to get over the top from a crawling start. The Jets weren't going to get rebuilt without a spike year in the process. There just wasn't enough talent on the team at the end of 2012 to have smooth sailing moving forward. We got very lucky last year and went 8-8 with a team that probably should have gone 5-11. This year it's the opposite, we're 3-11 with a team that probably should be 6-8. If John Idzik winds up fired we're literally starting over from scratch, only the baseline will be 2013 and 2014 instead of the old baseline of 2011 and 2012. It's hard to get up from 4-12 to a meaningful spot in the standings. Even a good management team will take you from 4-12 to 8-8 over a couple of years if they are starting from scratch. I'd rather see year 3 of the Idzik plan with all the cap space and hopefully Dee Milliner in the plan instead of out for the year. I'd rather see Calvin Pryor at SS with a real FS behind him. We have no idea how things will pan out but new regime is going to devalue all the old regime's players and picks and we're going to be worse off for a year or two because of it.
I think having him manage the salary cap would be okay, but there's so much ill will towards him in New York that he should probably go to another team and be their cap manager.
Lmao funny I just watched American fact vs fiction and thry dispute that he said that. Said it was actually his competitor but it got attributed to him because he said it about him.
This year sucks and people just want to see heads roll. But Idzik should get a chance to continue implementing his plan and correcting his mistakes.
