That where people are wrong. If we cut Harvin he took away 7mil I think in rollover cap and that's a bad move for a team that was 1-6 at the time of the trade. So that will go down as another bad move he made.
If the Jets cut Percy Harvin it will be one of the bad moves of all time. Yes, he's expensive in salary and cap next year but he's one of the few assets the Jets have on the roster that is flat out good at what he does. Cap space is the one thing the Jets have plenty of at this point. Cutting a talented player because they don't want to pay him next year would be foolish and that's true whether they wind up giving a 6th round pick with a cut or a 4th round pick without one.
Idzik deserves the criticism 100% last year was the year he could get by but the team he put on the field this year was embarrassing. We had a college linebacker playing corner, we had undrafted guys trying out for the team not to fill a spot but to start 2 days later, we had 12 draft picks and only a few are even associated with our team all while letting 25 million in cap space go to waste. Sure Bradway has a lot to do with it we all know how bad he is but everything is ultimately controlled by the GM and he deserves to ridiculed.
Wow!!! Some of you guys need to chill. It seems to at least me, the OP was looking for the response he expected baiting the masses. My take on Idzik: He was not the right person to GM the Jets and that falls on Woody. Woody keeping Rex and forcing him on Idzik was a bad move and Idzik deserves part of the blame getting himself into that situation. Hardly any experience in scouting players, drafting and handling the "day to day operations of a franchise. Lacks the people skills and from all accounts has distanced himself from the masses at Florham Park. Many possible good GM candidates didn't even consider the Jets because of Woody's mandate to keep Rex. I like Rex, but if you were going to keep Rex, you keep Tanny for one more year, not keep Rex and hire the GM. A new GM wants their coach. That's where Idzik made the mistake of accepting the Job. Idzik doesn't get all the blame, he took over a team on the decline and was expected to turn it around almost immediately. Anyone who really studied the Jets last year, knew the Jets were in for a fall. The 8-8 team was a mirage, a few lucky wins and some other wins that we just got by, it was false hope for 2014, fools gold. I truly expected the Jets to be no better than 5-11 this year. That Idzik speech in the Miami locker room last year "Rex is our Coach", was so full of crap. The Fire Idzik Billboard people are frustrated Jet Fans, I understand it, but it's over the top this knee-jerk, twitter crazed, instant gratification World we now live in. What a waste of money for Billboards. Woody is our owner, like it or not, he's not going away, so it's his turn to get it right this time.
Idzik knew what he was getting into. He wasn't a top prospect for the Jets GM job 2 years ago but he was willing to take the job and not choose his own coach. I agree that usually GM's need 3-4 years with a team but this is an unusual situation. The Jets have declined over Idzik's tenure and he has received a lot of bad press from the NY media and the Jets fan base. The Jets will most likely fire head coach Rex Ryan at the end of the season. If the Jets keep Idzik for 2015 he is still in a bad spot. He pics his own new head coach and new QB but is in a win now situation due to his previous 2 years. With a new coach and a new QB my 2015 expectations for the Jets are not playoff bound, new systems and building take time. This would get Idzik fired after 2015 and the new GM for 2016 would be in a bad spot with the head coach and QB spots that he had no say in. In that case 2015 would just be another year of bad Jets football without making any progress. So in my opinion Woody when this season is over cleans house, brings in a new GM. An attractive job with a lot of cap space and can bring in their coach and QB for their future plan for this franchise and hopefully makes the right choices that puts the Jets back in the right direction. I guy that I like a lot is Bill Polian. A kid from the Bronx that did great things for the Colts and has a great reputation throughout the NFL, but is his current job with ESPN too nice for him to even want to get back into the GM business???
When Idzik finally does something and signs a legit playmaker all of a sudden the same critics who said the team has no receivers or playmakers kill him because of a cap hit. The same people who cried bloody murder about 20 mil in unspent cap money. Based on what we've seen to date was Harvin a good addition. Hell yes!
Being in a win-now situation after a 2 or 3 win season isn't that bad. Win 6 games and you have the team on the up swing. It's not like he would need to field a 10 win team to show improvement. This isn't s talentless team. A new coach and QB could get 6 wins with this squad.
Percy has never held out with the Jets. You can't ignore the fact that the team has had a relationship with Revis behind the scenes that also influenced their decision just because you don't know what went on between them. That's just an unreasonable argument you are trying to infer.
Are you related to him? What the hell do you care if people decide to blow their money on billboards that want him fired? Very odd that people are so defensive about these billboards. The fans have spoken and rightfully so.
We are his customers. We aren't threatening anybody. We are stating fact about what we will do if he rewards incompetence by allowing it to continue to be employed in his franchise. It is not a threat.
Ok, so here's the difference and it's a doozy. In order to keep Revis the Jets were going to have to frontload a deal with more than $50M in guarantees, probably a lot more than that. They were going to be tied into Revis at $15-16M a year for half a decade. They were going to do this not knowing how his knee ultimately turned out and not knowing if they could afford to pay a CB that kind of money over the timespan involved. It was just a bad move to keep him, even in hindsight. The team that acquired him cut him after one season because even with no guaranteed money he wasn't worth the $16M a year to them. The difference between an early 3rd and an early 4th was minuscule against the basic fact that a $16M a year CB guarantees you nothing in terms of overall competitiveness or the playoffs. The Jets would have been in a much worse place with Revis. Percy Harvin costs the Jets $10.5M next year. That's it, he doesn't cost them anything more than that. If they like what they see next year he costs them $9.9M in 2016. That's it, he doesn't cost them anything more than that. If they like what they see... Harvin is a significant investment against the cap next year but he has no ties that bind the Jets after that. He's going to be hungry to play well every year because that buys him the next year at his high salary. If he has a bad year and the Jets cut him? No huge contract coming off of that anywhere the year after. He's the perfect star contract, good as long as he's worth it and cuttable as soon as not and all the incentive in the world to keep playing well. Revis was the other way around. Bound to the Jets and all the control in the world as a result.
If we keep Harvin past this season then yes it a great sign. What makes it so good when he was added after the Jets was already 1-6? And then he gone the next season?
Right. You know you guys really need to look at what you're doing here. Because you're going to hate it when things are looking up and some other group buys a billboard because they can't stand who that idiot coach is playing at RG, or LG or whatever. The reason you've made laughingstocks out of Jets fans is that every franchise goes through this kind of turmoil periodically. Only the Jets have fans who think putting up a billboard is a healthy thing to do about it. And no, that doesn't speak well of us unless you think being self-entitled assholes is a good thing.
+1. We had an awful series of contract negotiations with Revis that HE instigated--the team that drafted him and gave him his shot and paid him a ton of money. He fucked with US. Harvin has not yet done that. _
It is a few people who are holding on for dear life and dug their heels in the sand a long time ago… most of the people who were against what we were doing at first (when it was still about a 70/30 split in our favor) have changed their minds because they respect the passion and organization that this movement has displayed. This is nothing more than the same 5-10 noisy people on a message board who have the right to their opinion. If you go to a Jets game and see what the reaction is to the Fire Idzik t-shirts, signs & banners - you would know how many people there are supporting what we are doing in relation to the people who hate it. And if you read the thousands of emails that come in weekly from across the country and even in places like Switzerland, England, Canada & Mexico - you would see just how wide of a reach this thing has.
