New York QB Situation

I think If we cant land Mariota we should look to trade for Cutler.

Other options at QB:
Signing Bradford as a FA is just dumb because Geno will be playing week 2 after he goeas down.
Drafting Winston is a 50/50 chance with all the talent in the world but is a douch bag.
Trading for RG3 is an option but a bigger risk than ever because of his inconsistent play and is injury prone.

 

Cutler is a piece of shit. Bradford IMO is a better option. How is it that with Forte, Jefferey and Marshall the dude is awful? He never raises his level of play against better competition.

He's no leader, always complains.

 

Change of scenery has already been tried with that clown. How many towns is he going to shoot his way out of? He's Jeff George; we'll never win anything with him, not even a division title. It's such a pity, because he has probably the best arm in the NFL.

I hate the guy. I would rather have a QB who sucks (like Brian Hoyer) than a moron at the position, like Jay Cutler. (Of course, being the SOJ, we end up with both of them in the same person.... SMH)

 

Again, on the bolded part his stats say otherwise.

I agree Bradford is a better option, but I really don't see the Rams letting him go. We are talking reasonable possibilities here. I did some research yesterday. It sure sounds like the Bears FO would consider a reasonable trade for Cutler.

As for his support, the Bears' running game has been lower tier this year. And as I said Marshall has been hurt this season. I am surprised the CS has been criticized so strongly, but there it is. It's far from all on him.

Also again, we are looking for the best available option. Sure it would be great to get Mariota, but I really don't think that's happening.

This team is so far from contending, the best that we can hope for is an upgrade at Qb to hold for some hoped for medium term development with a young Qb. Cutler is the man for the job, I think.

 

Cutler is a good hold the fort option, just need to find the next guy. Bradford will probably get cut if he doesn't renegotiate his current contract, he's owed some rediculous amount of money. Not much else out there right now, slim pickens.

 

I disagree. Sam Bradford is due $16 million next year, most of which will go away if he is cut. The Rams are doing well without him this year and he's simply not worth that cost, but I would love the Jets to pick him up cheap next year.

I think he's our best bet.

 

Statistics are only part of the game. With the offensive weapons around him, he should be thriving. If you watched the games a lot of his statistics come when he's down like 3 scores. He's not competitive when the game is hanging in the balance. He doesn't get Forte involved enough in the passing game. If you watched last week's game, there were instances where he wasn't even looking for Forte as a check-down while he was wide open, instead he gun-hoes it down the field.

Rams need a new QB period - they either stay with Austin Davis / Shaun Hill and look to draft a new QB. I don't see Bradford staying with that price-tag.

 

I totally see Cutler as what I would call a short to medium term solution. Nothing more than that, but in fairness to him he would be good for that role.

The reality is the Jets can't just sit there sucking until they get a franchise Qb in the draft. The fans would not stand for it.

The old saying is don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good. Cutler would be far from perfect. But he would be an upgrade, and a good upgrade. Good.

Good is better than bad.

 

Fine if that comes to pass. But the original thinking was that Davis was going to be their go to guy. But he did not hold up, and they're playing Hill. Hill I am sure is doing a good job there, but I don't know if they see Hill as their guy other than as a backup. In fact Davis only got in there because Hill got hurt after Bradford did.

In other words I thought it more likely they would get rid of Bradford if they caught lightning in a bottle with Davis. Since that's not the current take on things, it's less likely than before.

 

Look, no one here is saying Cutler does not have his flaws. Even Tom Brady has his flaws. Well maybe Aaron Rodgers doesn't, heh, but that's not the point.

Cutler is an average or better Qb when compared to NFL starting Qb's as a whole. As such he would be a huge upgrade for the Jets. Best we can do this coming off season if they can't get Mariota and no other option turns up. If that's Bradford, I've already spoken to that.

 

Cutler is average with Marshall, Forte, and Jeffery so what will that mean when he comes to the Jets? With a 100M dollar contract? Do you believe Jay Cutler has leadership qualities? Fans will want Cutler gone the minute he starts acting like a bitch and not holding himself accountable. This is a huge pass, I don't care how talented his arm is.

Bradford still has potential, he still can improve and to be honest - he was the best QB to work under Schottenheimer and he actually produced. Bradford is cheaper and will allow us to not only draft a QB but pursue FA aggressively. We give him a great offensive line, I think his chances of re-surging are far better than Cutler being a leader here in NY.

I would easily take my chances with Bradford and look to draft a rookie QB as well.

 

Please don't mention Cutler in the same sentence as proven leaders that get results and make their teammates better. Not only am I not trading for Cutler, I am not paying him the money he is getting right now. I'll tell you something about Cutler, this man mentally checks out of games when things don't go his way.

If the Jets can't get Mariota, then well Winston will more than likely be a Jet. Winston has better leadership qualities IMO on the field then Cutler.

 

Yep, all those "if we had an average Qb..." posts are on my mind as well.

On Bradford I think you'd want to confirm he's healthy before pulling that trigger. Sure. If he is healthy he's better than Cutler. But as you say...

Cutler of course has missed games, too. But right now he's relatively healthy, and has not missed playing this year. He's 31 with no signficant conditioning restriction. For the Jets' needs going forward, he is probably the best available option.

 

YOu keep mentioning Forte like a broken record. Chicago's overall run offense is ranked 26th this year, significantly below Cutler's Qb ranking.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing

Sounds to me like Cutler is not getting much support from the ground game.

I also mentioned how Marshall has been banged up, but you keep referring to him.

And how do you know Bradford would be cheaper???

 

If you want to debate my posts, it would help if you read all of them. In order to trade Cutler Chicago would almost certainly have to eat a chunk of is guaranteed money.

Next!

 

Marshall's pain threshold is freaking unbelievable - he's been hurt ALL yr and he's still producing. The HC rarely runs the ball for the Bears, but still there have been plenty of times where Forte was open on the check-down. The offensive line is pretty bad also for the Bears right now, a lot of them are hurt.

Bradford has no choice but to take a cheaper contract, I think he absolutely gets cut and if we can make a move on him we should, he's extremely accurate and has good football IQ. The football Gods haven't been kind to him, but you know right now we see freaking Sanchez helping his team win the division - we could very well do the same thing, if we build a good team around him.

I think Cutler is a freaking cry-baby and I don't like players that don't hold themselves accountable. I don't like players that check themselves out mentally. This has happened far too much.

 

Cutler = not worth the trade

NEXT! Maybe we can go get Kyle Orton ...

 

Cutler wouldn't be able to handle the pressure that comes with being a starting QB in NY.

 

I think Bradford would be a great move, whether or it's sitting a rookie behind him or giving him a shot to be the guy.