I can only hope Woody heard Philbin's post game presser thanking all the Phin fans for showing up and for their support
Fire and cut everybody. Hire an awesome GM and coaches. Sign awesome FAs for really cheap and trade for Aaron Rodgers (a 2016 third should do it). Draft awesome players. Then sell the team.
yes. and stop polling the team on their preferences. asking the players if they want Rex back is just disruptive.
If I'm Woody I call up every season ticket holder and offer to buy back their tickets to the Pats game for three times face. Then I donate them all to underprivileged kids in the Tri-State area. Then I hire a lawyer to combat the child abuse charges.
Sorry, I think your plan is awful! While you make some good points in Idzik's favor, there's no way you let Rex stay one more season just to find out whether Idzik is any good. It also seems that Idzik and Rex are not on the same page. It would be a HUGE mistake to keep both. The rest of the CS, aside from the DL coach seems pretty inept as well. No way those clowns should get to draw another year's paycheck from the Jets and make us fans have to suffer through their incompetence. The only sane, logical thing to do if Woody has serious doubts about Idzik is to fire both Idzik and Rex. If he doesn't have serious doubts about Idzik, then he should keep him, but he would be wrong, and most of the fan base would be up in arms. Sometimes when you make a mistake, the best thing to do is just to acknowledge it and correct it as soon as possible. Will he take criticism for firing Idzik so soon? Undoubtedly, but I think most reasonable people would understand the rationale behind firing him. Besides, if Woody were to hire a football man to serve as Team President and allow him to make the decisions, the blame wouldn't lie on Woody.
Haha nothing to apologize for. I know most people won't agree. And to be honest, I'm not entirely sure I agree. I'm almost 50/50 at this point with that opinion. I could really take them or leave them. I just hope if we fire them, we have a good plan in place with a number of good candidates.
Woody Johnson = Emperor Nero (The Original) Woody fiddles up in his owner's box while his team burns on the field.... Nero? you all probably know the story of how he fiddled while Rome burned. Going forward, until things change I'm gonna refer to Woody Johnson as Nero. Somebody needs to call out the Scion of the Johnson empire.
the owner of the browns did exactly that after having a new gm and coach for only one year! if you repeat the same thing again, woody, over and over and it doesn't work, try doing something else!
My concern is supposedly Idzik was going to get time to rebuild, and Woody fires him. Will Woody pressure the next GM to "win now"? Will the GM feel pressure to win now considering the guy who was supposed to get time to turn it around got 2 years and didn't even get to pick a coach? Now it is possible for the Jets go crazy, get a talented team for 1-2 years, catch some luck and win the SB. But if I'm building a team, I want the safer approach of building for now and the future and I don't think you can do if the owner is holding your job saying win now or else. It's usually the franchise that have owners like this that struggle. Except in baseball where you can endlessly spend if you want.
I understand your concern, and it is valid. Just because Woody fires Idzik doesn't mean he should switch his rationale and insist that the GM "win now." It just means that he picked the wrong guy to build the team. As I've stated before, I think Idzik did a very good job cleaning up the cap and trying to restore some professionalism to the Jets. I like that he didn't panic and overpay for a FA CB this offseason. That said, I've not been very happy with the job he's done in the draft (even though it's too early to tell if some of the players he picked will pan out) and FA. I'm still extremely upset that he didn't get one of the topflight WRs in the 2014 WR-rich draft. I think that was HUGE mistake. I'm still upset that he didn't take Teddy Bridgewater. I liked Geno, but just because they had taken Geno in the 2nd round, didn't mean the Jets couldn't take another QB high if they weren't sure about Geno. Geno was a bit of a value pick at a premium position, and the Jets will need a backup QB anyway. Teddy was a MUCH better prospect than Geno. I liked Pryor, but didn't want him over a WR like Cooks. Idzik could have probably traded down in the first, gotten an additional 3rd round pick and still taken Teddy Bridgewater ahead of Minny. I didn't want Amaro in the 2nd round (or at all), even though he's turned out to be better than I thought. I think they would have been much better off taking a premium WR over Amaro and taking a TE lower who was also a good blocker. Idzik could have taken Cooks in the 1st then taken Jeremiah Attaochu in the 2nd round or still taken one of Davante Adams, Jarvis Landry or even Allen Robinson in the 2nd round rather than Amaro, and their WR position would be set for years. Alternatively, if they had taken Teddy in the 1st round, they still could have taken one of Adams, Landry or Robinson in the 2nd, or they could have taken Cooks in the 1st and Jimmy Garoppalo in the 2nd. I'd have been much happier with about any combination of two of those players over Pryer and Amaro. Another possibility is that they could have traded down in the 2nd and taken C.J. Fiedorowicz at TE, or taken Crockett Gilmore or Richard Rogers in the 3rd. Rogers has been an excellent addition by Green Bay. If they wanted to address CB, they could have taken Stanley Jean-Baptiste in the 2nd round or Phillip Gaines in the 3rd. McDougle could still pan out, but his injury history is a concern. Even though I like the addition of Dakota Dozier, the point could be made that Chris Watt, Gabe Jackson and Trai Turner were better prospects and were guys who had played OG, not OT, so didn't have to learn a new position. This was one of the deepest and best drafts in a good while, and I don't think that Idzik got very much out of it. Whatever harm that could possibly be done by firing him after only two years is minimal imo compared with the damage that he could by screwing yet another draft or two. A draft with 12 draft picks is a draft that should pay at least immediate dividends and should be a draft that will dramatically change the nature of one's football team for the better. At this point in time at least, it looks like whatever gains the Jets will have made from this draft will be minimal. Amaro could become a solid pass catcher, and if Pryor is used correctly, he could become a very effective SS. Perhaps Dozier might develop into at least a quality backup, maybe even a starter. I don't see much else coming out of that draft at this point. Even though I'm glad Idzik didn't overpay for a FA CB, I think there were better second tier CB prospects he could have signed than Dmitri Patterson, and there were other FA WRs he could have added to upgrade our WR corps. Overall, Idzik just doesn't seem to have a very good eye for talent imo. I want him gone with Rex and the rest of the CS and maybe most, if not all, of the scouting dept. too.
Champ has been the same guy since he's joined the board. His style rubs people the wrong way so he takes heat. Giving heat causes a response, and champs responses are tame, especially compared to some of the other stuff on here. Is this a message board for Jets fans, or a cool kids club with some Jets window dressing? You're post reeks of the latter, and that would be a sad statement about this place coming from someone with some responsibilities here. Being yourself is not trolling, and Champ has been here long enough that we all know who he is. Leave the guy alone, he's passionate and cares about this team, and simply has a different way of expressing it.
1. Hire Gus Malzahn and bring in a defensive coordinator who is considered a good young mind. 2. Draft Mariota/Winston/Cooper 3. Sign Iupati 4. Sign Chris Harris Jr . 5. Sign Charles Clay 6. Sign Stevie Brown 7. Sign Bradford/Locker 8. Sign Brandon Graham Key is going to be draft and coach. i know its not realistic to sign all of these players. but those are the positions that need to be attacked in free agency and everyone I've listed is still young. with Cooper, Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Amaro, Clay is very good for weapons.
Yeah well, enough is enough. I didn't ban champ, but I don't owe champ anything. He can post whatever he wants but it does border on trolling. I've let it go on for a long, long time too. If you miss champ that's fine. You may be the only one that does and even if so, its not about one guy, its about the entire board. I really don't care much one way or the other if champ continues to post here or not. He's not banned. But he keeps on posting delusional shit and people get tired of it. There are other boards besides this one. Being a fan since 1965 doesn't give anyone special privileges. Be advised, its my responsibility to keep this board running relatively smoothly and that mean it has to work for everybody. That also means not posting nonsense year after year after year. Champ hasn't been around and that's his choice. Champ was warned, not banned. Now if you think this is a cool kids club, you're free to explore other options as well. This site is for everybody to enjoy as no one has time to waste coming on here reading BS.
I'm not going anywhere unless you force me to. I'm expressing my opinion that you are overreaching with your authority. There is no threat in my opinion, nor in Champ's. Are the tools not provided here to place people on ignore whose posts you don't want to read? My personal perception of this situation is that you don't like him for whatever reason, and have decided you are going to flex your moderator powers as a personal censor button. If Champ were an actual troll, he would've been banned a long time ago. I've personally been here since before the board was reset, if I were a troll, I would've been banned a long time ago as well. You're not protecting anyone's time, but you are displaying a phobia to differing opinions. You may believe you are protecting the group, but the group consists of individuals, the collective of which give this board it's great personality. Censoring individuals and claiming the group argument doesn't look good. Respectfully, I believe the criteria for issuing such threats should be reevaluated.
Feel free to point exactly how Champ has been censored. Or how Champ has been banned..Or how anything at all has been done to Champ. What you will find is that nothing has been done to Champ except maybe some embarrassment and he'll get over it. Nothing he hasn't experienced over the last 10 years or so. No one is forcing anyone one out however everybody has choices and options. Now as far as I'm concerned, this is done. Have a nice day.
When you're threatening to ban someone for being themself you're censoring them, as you're giving an ultimatum to change or be cast out.
