I just wonder what Idzik really thinks about what Marty and Rex perpetrated on the team and fans last night.
Let's say you couldn't reach agreement with Mo Wilk on a deal because he was asking JJ Watt money. What would he be worth in a trade at this point? He's 25. He's on the edge of All-Pro talent and he plays 3-4 DE and probably a really mean 3T DT. That's a couple of 1st round picks including a top 10 pick. That's a good QB in his prime who is on the outs with his current team for some reason. That's a lot of value on a team that already has Sheldon Richardson, Quinton Coples, Damon Harrison and some very good roleplayers on the line. One of the interesting things last night was the Jets were in a 4-3 for a lot of the night with Wilkerson out. They dominated a pretty good Fin offense with guys like Kenrick Ellis, Leger Douzable and T.J. Barnes playing significant roles. I'm not saying the Jets should trade Mo Wilk, because they should re-sign him, but they've got a lot of significant holes at this point and the DL is overflowing with talent.
I am not against trading Wilkerson because of the talent on that line and I noticed that 4-3 front. I liked what I saw and I am not against trading him like I was with Revis, but there's no way they get that much for him.
I'm sorry. I guess I didn't want the most recognizable and prominent public spokesperson for my favorite sports franchise to sound like a delusional buffoon. My mistake . . . I don't know what I was thinking. It won't happen again. Carry on.
I get what you're saying but imho yes running for 200 yards and 10 points is better than passing for 200 yards and 10 points. You're keeping the other team's offense off the field, running the clock and limiting the number of possessions each teams gets, especially vs. a higher-powered offense (e.g. Giants-Bills '90 SB). And even against an even-powered offense, you're winning the LOS and playing a lower risk style of offense (and possibly winning the turnover battle as well). I'd put 11-in-the-box against that chicken wing : )
Look, I certainly don't want to offend anyone here, but over the last month or more Rex has been anything but prominent. In fact he is highly recognizable mostly in a negative sort of way, and in some respects, he has been put in a no win position in no small part because of the dismal job of the GM and the pathetic meddling of the ticket selling owner. Perhaps, Standing in the podium every once in a while they should have the likes of Woody and John wizard Idzik trying to explain their blunders, only then we will see what a truly delusional buffoon or two look like.
The answer to your question Fred lies with the advice Woody gets from whomever is in his ear these days. Obviously, he's been getting lousy advice for quite some time now as evidenced by the Idzik hire saga. The danger is that as we wait for the new offense to develop, we can't allow the Defense to age out on us simultaneously. As it is, Mangold and Brick are getting on in age so the OLine has to be renovated first AFTER the next QB is chosen. If it takes 3 years or so for the new OLine/QB tandem to start to click, that's 3 more years of wear and tear on the defense. Good thing our D is a young defense. Either way, we're talking a 3-4year trek back to respectability. We most certainly are NOT 2 players away from a deep playoff run. Hell, we might be 2 DRAFTS away at best.
I like the discussion on Wilkerson. THis team is going to need an upgrade at OL and Cb even if they get a quality Qb. Meanwhile as is noted the DL arguably has too much talent to put to good use. It's an overload situation.
Not buying it. Rex has been the head coach here for six years. Idzik and/or Woody's idiocy doesn't excuse Rex's. The guy incessantly sounds like a delusional buffoon. I'm just tired of it.
You clearly have issues with reading comprehension. I said "Idzik did give Rex a raw deal this season." That means that I agree that Idzik didn't give Rex much to work with this season.
Value in a trade is in the eye of the beholder. Mo Wilk is probably the second best 3-4 DE in the NFL right now and probably in the top 6 or so in value as an interior defensive lineman. That's a lot of value at a very important position. If the Falcons decided to reboot and trade Matt Ryan for example Wilkerson would be solidly in the same category of value. That's because Wilkerson is a 25 year old star on the defensive line and Ryan is a 29 year old QB. The other line of thought is that the 49ers would jump through hoops to trade Harbaugh for Mo Wilk right now. They'd throw things in to get that done including maybe their 1st round pick.
I know you are just throwing names out For fun bit If the falcons were that dumb and actually offered Matt Ryan for Wilkerson I would hope Idzik or whoever is in charge RUNS to the print/fax machine and gets a deal done as soon As they can sign on. Your second idea..... Eh.... Only because I think the jets could get harbaugh without trading... Just hiring him when he gets fired in SF
YEP. Lets trade one of the best d linemen in the game, and repeat our mistake with the 5 overall pick, on the otherside of the ball. do you pull the knot tight before the drool hits the shoe top?
agreed, every presser is painful. Win or lose, he just sinks the franchise deeper and deeper into a negative light.
go on then, I will bite: you think he should rely on the offense to win the game instead? this offense? coaches say this kind of stuff all the time, I don't think anyone believes it or a realization that our passing offense is near non-existent and so there was no real alternative to switch to? again, what do you expect someone to say in a presser "it was clear to me the team was losing control"? do you really think if the Jets had Manning or Rodgers back there they would be running the ball all the time and relying on ground and pound? you have to play to your strengths on for the Jets that isn't throwing the ball I don't think anyone has success at the QB position without being very lucky - either you are lucky to be terrible at the right time (like the Colts) or you get lucky in the draft (like the Niners or Patriots) - no-one can manufacture a great QB its mostly down to getting lucky whether you are the Jets or any other team all this said - happy for the Jets to move on in the summer and try something new as its clear this recipe isn't working.
