Sorry Geno

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  1. Umphpool

    Umphpool Well-Known Member

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    Just awful, but I don't think Marty was that easy to work with either
     
  2. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

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    He was ruined psychologically by week 2 when there were no weapons. Amaro was on the bench, Harvin wasn't on the team, Decker was kind of hurt, and let's not forget that Winters was starting. He just hit a psychological wall and it didn't matter when some useful pieces got brought in because it was too late and the OL was still a heaping pile of shit. You can't gain any confidence when your OL is going to turnstile you into a sack at any given second. Vick went into the same shell within 2-3 weeks. It's just a pitiful state of affairs.


    I'm not saying that Geno should have been a good NFL QB because I really don't know. But he did show flashes at times last year in this pathetic offense, whether he could've been consistent enough or smart enough under different circumstances? We'll probably never know for sure, but I'm very confident that Geno was meant to be a whole lot better than he looks even if that wouldn't have been good enough in the end.
     
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    He wasn't easy to work with at all because he was trying to run a WCO in the NFL which requires QB skills that are out of his reach.
     
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    74 Well-Known Member

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    If you're ruined psychologically by week two then you're a fucking pussy and you shouldn't be playing a contact sport
     
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  5. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

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    Explain Vick?
     
  6. JetsFan

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    Idzik started Smith despite Rex's desire to start Vick. Rex knows Smith can't win throwing the ball so he ran it every down so Smith couldn't lose it for him, yet Smith did. Smith had 65 yds passing, 53% comp, 0TDs, and 1 Int. This while they had 8 in the box and his receivers were in man coverage (a real QB would have loved it). Not to mention getting 275 yds rushing and still losing, wtf! If Idzik, Rex, Vick and Smith are still around next season I'm turning in my Jets card and moving on. Rex now owns the 2nd worst start on a season in team history, only ahead of Kotite.
     
  7. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

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    He was ruined by his entire rookie year but he was still fighting then, and he came out this year and hit the breaking point around week 2. It wasn't week 2. It was week 18 of the same shit.

    People called Sanchez soft, I think he was above average tough to hang around and keep fighting through Schotty and all of that bullshit for as many years as he did. Like I said, Geno isn't as tough and maybe that means he never would've been tough enough, but a developing QB isn't supposed to be subjected to this type of mismanagement where you're automatically going to find out when he breaks down...just a question of when.
     
  8. 74

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    Vick went from not even practicing or paying attention all year to being thrown into the middle of a shit show. I'm not surprised he fell on his face but I think he would've looked a lot more competent if he was the starter from day one. I'm glad he wasn't tho or else this would all just be happening next year.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    By the end of the first half, it seemed pretty clear to me that a) Idzik made the Geno starting call and b) Rex and Marty were sending him a message to suck their dicks.

    If Rex had really had a belief that Geno could lead them to a win, the Jets may have actually bothered to throw the ball more than 13 times.

    I felt like I was watching Navy vs Air Force tonight.
     
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  10. JetsFan

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    Vick is washed up and Geno is a never was. Right now Sanchez is leading the #1 offense in the NFL. So it seems the coaching staff was a major part of Sanchez's problem. Now he has a real coach that knows offense. Rex never cared to learn anything about the offensive side of the ball.
     
  11. 74

    74 Well-Known Member

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    That's weak sauce. One thing all good QBs have is short term memory. If he's letting last year affect this year then he's the last person I want at the helm. That's all just purely hypothetical tho cuz he wasn't psychologically trashed, he just sucks as a pro.
     
  12. PolygamyWinsChampionships

    PolygamyWinsChampionships Well-Known Member

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    That's a cop out derived from a couple bullshit sound bytes he fed the media. He's been a solid QB in the NFL when healthy for like 15 years. What he just came here and forgot how to play all of a sudden because he thought he wouldn't be starting? Or he didn't know MM's offense?
     
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    That's not a cop out. The team was already circling the drain bowl by the time they put him in and he only got 3 games.
     
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    I'll go with b) on this one. Even the few passes Geno did throw looked liked garbage, I would have no faith in him either.
     
  15. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    It wasn't an either/or scenario.
     
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  16. rammagen

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    Sorry but geno just is bad. The Mark haters must be disliking life.....
    look a big part of this is geno the rest is the coaching sucking eggs.
    you need to adjust your style to the qb and this staff did not do it. In their defense geno never showed a great load of skills
     
  17. Geno007

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    Really? Who are these weapons u talk about? Decker? Who was injured most of the first half of the season?
     
  18. perpetualchange

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    Geno should have improved this year over last year. Our offense is better in every way, on paper. What we have seen from Geno this year is that he continues to throw behind or above recievers, continues to throw into coverage, continues to make poor reads (if he makes reads at all), continues to not use his legs to get out of trouble, continues to be oblivious to read the box and make adjustments at the line. He has regressed and it is 100 percent on lack of effort and focus from him.
     
  19. PulseJet

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    No fan of Geno, but the coaching plan destroyed him tonight. In the press conference Ryan said they took shots downfield and it didnt work out. But that is disingenuous. In the second half they only passed on third and long and when they were behind. Had they run play action and some slants with Harvin on 1st and 2nd down in the early 3rd quarter they would have likely won the game.

    Of course Ryan knows this. Whether its his ego, an f/u to Idzik/Woody, the fact that he has no clue how to adjust game plans, whatever... At least his fault actually served the team for a change in snatching a loss out of a won game.
     
  20. Murrell2878

    Murrell2878 Lets go JETS!
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    Geno is a terrible QB. Nice kid, but a terrible QB. So many people saw this prior to him getting drafted. So many people saw this last year. So many people saw this early this year.
     
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