Trade for Jim Harbaugh??

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  1. Pocket Jet

    Pocket Jet Well-Known Member

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    too bad we can't get rid of both
     
  2. pclfan

    pclfan Well-Known Member

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    Look I wouldn't lose any sleep if he fires Idzik. But I don't think it is his fault that the team like on Monday doesn't show up to play. Or that we're out coached every week. The spin we are getting from guys like MM is that's it's the GMs fault for not giving the HC talent. I just think they have more talent than the won lost record shows.
     
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  3. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    It may happen, but I think the story itself is bullshit.
    Idzik has been hush mouthed about everything since he's been here, I doubt he confided this to anyone that would talk about it. ...woody on the other hand may have loose lips.
     
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  4. NCJetsfan

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    The problem is, if the Jets trade for Harbaugh, they're more than likely not going to have the pick it takes to get Mariota. I would welcome Harbaugh if he were fired first by SF, but am not interested in trading picks for, particularly if: there will be another club competing for him, it's true that his wife supposedly wants to stay out west, and the other team that's interested in trading for him is the Oakland Raiders. He wouldn't have to move and could really stick in the Niners noses building a winner in Oakland. He would just use the Jets to drive the asking price up. No thanks.
     
  5. NCJetsfan

    NCJetsfan Well-Known Member

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    You can't be serious. You can get accountants to manage the cap and negotiate contracts. IMO the most important job of the GM is knowing talent and personnel, having scouting and personnel experience, and knowing what it takes to build a team. No Wall St. hotshot is going to know that or have that kind of experience.
     
  6. NYJets17

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    cosigned
     
  7. NCJetsfan

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    In all likelihood, I think it would take more, perhaps considerably more than a 2nd round pick. If it's true that Cleveland tried to trade for him this season, they probably offered a 3rd round pick, possibly a 2nd round pick, but could have offered more. If Oakland will be competing for him (or any other team for that matter), then the price tag will go up considerably, and in all likelihood, he'd just use the Jets to drive up the price. I'm not interested in that at all. While I think I'd love to see Harbaugh HC of the Jets, the only way I want that to happen is if SF fires him and Woody, Idzik or the new GM hires him.
     
  8. Red Menace

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    I'm not believing this for a second, the jets have no chance at landing Haurbaugh, if his wife wants to stay in Cali, It's a done deal he's not coming to the east coast, not worth losing half of his possessions in a divorce.

    The jets can find an offensive minded HC from the coordinators in the NFL, I'm actually liking what Kyle Shannahn is doing with his resume, as he has a more balanced offensive mindset.

    I don't like trading for a HC anyway, and why would Harbaugh sign an extension now ? I don't see how that would help him, would it not be better to let your contract play out or let the niners fire you so you can set your own financial demand?

    Why would the jets allow themselves to be fleeced by the niners when they could talk to Harbaugh on their own after he is no longer employed by them?

    Not crazy about this if it were factual.
     
  9. pdxdrew

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    Seems like a Bay Area guy but what a pickup. Definately worth a pick or two.
     
  10. gustoonarmy

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    And how's that worked out over the last 4 decades?
    I'd like to see the money and talent evaluation separated. I agree with what you have said, ideally thats great, but we just cannot find that person, for as long as I can remember, they are either great with $$$ or players.

    As it stands now we have Bradway who couldn't spot a stud in a porn flick and Idzik whos like a 9 year old boy banker in monopoly.
    Bradway should be forwarding the best fit players to Ryan, not the GM. Look whats happened this season.
     
  11. Milliner is your Mommy

    Milliner is your Mommy Well-Known Member

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    Top 10 coach in the NFL and I dont think thats arguable. Great at developing QBs. Saved Alex Smith's career. I would trade for Harbaugh in a second. He will hold his players accountable thats for sure.
     
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  12. LongIslandBlitz

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    Lol just yesterday I was talking about this now we might trade for him,as long as we are not stupid enough to offer a first round pick I love this idea.Id say anything from second round picks on are fair game,it all depends on what the Raiders are willing to offer ,they never seem to care about there draft picks
     
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  13. BomberJet

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    If Harbaugh is at all interested, it would be with the #1 pick in his back pocket to pick his QB..can't see the Jets giving that one up.
     
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  14. NCJetsfan

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    You show your total lack of knowledge and understanding of the game. Tannenbaum was an accountant and attorney and was a pretty awful GM. The Jets haven't had a quality GM in decades, but that doesn't mean that they're not out there. It's just been because the Jets have been owned by morons for the last 40 years or so.
     
  15. SouthBayJetsfan4life

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    In theory, getting Harbaugh would be great.
    The reality is getting him will not come cheap.
    His salary alone could top between $5-8M a year. Woody could afford that, but he's too cheap to want to.
    Second,to get him, means draft picks,starting at second this year and at least two or three picks in the 2016 draft.
    This team needs to do a complete reboot. Giving up draft picks is just not the way to go.

    Sorry, let the Raiders have him.
    Besides his family loves the Bay Area. To change their mind, specifically his wife's, is going to cost way more
    than what Woody is ready to spend.
     
  16. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    San Fran will never never trade him to Oakland
     
  17. Ozymandias

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    Depends what SF wants. I'm not trading a first. Give me Gus Malzahn.
     
  18. Will-I-Am-Not

    Will-I-Am-Not Well-Known Member

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    I'll take Jim Harbaugh for a third round pick or lower; but he has to leave those big boy khaki pants in San Francisco.
     
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  19. JetBlue

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    I thought the nfl ended coach trades after Gruden to the Bucs?
    http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml
    NFL nixes draft picks for coaches
    Teams no longer can give up picks for compensation, like the Bucs did for Gruden.
    By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer
    © St. Petersburg Times
    published January 17, 2003

    TAMPA -- Jon Gruden led the Bucs to a franchise-record 12 victories, a division title and a berth in Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Eagles. You would have to agree the trade Tampa Bay made with the Raiders for the rights to Gruden is an unqualified success.

    Now such a deal is against league rules.

    The league Thursday banned the type of trade that enabled the Bucs to sign Gruden. The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said.

    Tagliabue acted after the competition committee concluded that such coach-for-picks trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft.

    The co-chairman of the competition committee is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, whose team has reaped the benefits of such a trade.

    The Bucs ended a 36-day coaching search by trading two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8-million to the Raiders for the rights to Gruden, who had a year left on his contract.

    Three weeks ago, the Bucs attempted to receive compensation from the Cowboys for the rights to hire Bill Parcells, revealing the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach had signed a four-year contract to coach Tampa Bay a year ago.

    But the contract never was submitted to the league office for approval and Tagliabue ruled no compensation was owed.

    McKay declined comment Thursday.

    The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

    The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel or scouts.

    Gruden is the latest success story for teams that have been bold enough to package draft picks to hire coaches under contract with other teams.

    In 1997, the Jets sent draft picks to New England to acquire the rights to Parcells. Two years later, Parcells led the Jets to the AFC Championship Game.

    In 2000, the Patriots sent draft picks to the Jets to hire coach Bill Belichick, who was under contract. Last season, Belichick led New England to the Super Bowl XXXVI title.

    This is not the first time the competition committee recommended the league reconsider its policy of swapping picks for coaches. Three years ago it presented its concerns to ownership about teams attempting to receive compensation for assistants.

    After firing Tony Dungy and having Parcells renege on a deal to coach Tampa Bay and remain retired, Bucs owners targeted coaches under contract.

    First, they offered the 49ers a package of undisclosed draft picks for the rights to Steve Mariucci, who ultimately walked away from an offer to become coach and general manager.

    That prompted Bucs vice presidents Joel and Bryan Glazer to call Raiders general partner Al Davis and offer a king's ransom of top picks for the rights to Gruden.

    Both teams benefited. The Raiders host Tennessee in the AFC Championship Game while the Bucs travel to Philadelphia for the NFC title game.
     
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