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  1. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    What a throw by Mariota. Great job on all aspects right there. We need this kid bad.
     
  2. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I never denied that. Not once.

    I said you can't put his draft stock into a few bad games.
     
  3. JStokes

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    You keep bringing up Luck, but in the year he threw 10 INTs - that's 7 less than Winston--Luck threw over 100 MORE PASSES. And Luck threw 15 MORE TDs.

    Stop with the Luck nonsense, Winston's 17 INTS are really really bad.

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  4. BakerMaker

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    That was some kind of a throw, now the Oregon St secondary took an awful angle to allow the TD but the throw itself was sweet.

    These Oregon targets are ridiculously quick, they are playing a whole other pace vs Oregon St.
     
  5. JStokes

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    Yet folks will tell you he can't read defenses, look off defenders or throw receivers open.

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  6. BakerMaker

    BakerMaker Well-Known Member

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    This Oregon St D is so discombobulated, this is masterful by Mariota and Oregon. Very impressive.
     
  7. IBLEEDGREEN17

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    MM absolutely destroying Oregon st
     
  8. JStokes

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    I don't like him running but wow is he the total package.

    What a run.

    Oh Falco, I don't think Winston is winning the Heisman again this year.

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  9. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Looked pretty text book to me. Looked off the safety beautifully.
     
  10. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    And at this point Winston is set to throw for 90 TD if he played a third year like Luck did.

    Winston has a higher rating than Luck did and is set to have more yards that Luck did if he stayed a third year.

    Luck was a prospect that comes very few times in a lifetime. Winston and Mariota are not on that level. But this argument can go back and forth with numbers.
     
  11. JStokes

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    We are talking about INTERCEPTIONS.

    Luck and Winston's numbers CANNOT be compared. Over 400 throws for 10 INTS compared to under 300 throws for 17 INTs. In one season.

    Please.

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  12. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    Here we go again. Ignore the previous season. You keep talking about the one and ignoring the other. Setting records as a rookie
     
  13. BigSnacks54

    BigSnacks54 Well-Known Member

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    The interception numbers show us , that Winston is a poor decision maker.

    We're debating his decision making, and how this will affect him in the NFL.

    You cannot brush it off, as if this is the first time Winston has done this; He does this every other week!
     
  14. Martin&theJETS

    Martin&theJETS Well-Known Member

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    Luck had every GM in the league saying they would draft them. The same will never be said about Winston. /comparison to Luck.
     
  15. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    And his rookie year? Are we ignoring that year for the sake of your argument?
     
  16. JStokes

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    And in High School he was even better, right? And Junior High before that? Even better?

    He's regressed from a great year last year to worse this year.

    That's not a good trend.

    You're ignoring that trend.

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  17. JStokes

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    Are you ignoring the downward trend? For the sake of your argument?

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  18. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not ignoring the trend and a college prospect is based on just that, a college career, thus his freshman year is just as important as every other year.

    You're making a conclusion about him regressing just based on him. There are a multitude of reasons that fall into why he has had poor games and a poor season by his standards.

    And if you want to compare Winston to Mariota all you need to do is look at the offense Mariota runs. Not something that tends to translate well into the NFL. Both run very different offenses.
     
  19. JStokes

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    Nobody will look at this year when evaluating his draft stock.

    Because he was so good last year.

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  20. Falco21

    Falco21 Well-Known Member

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    No one said that. No one
     

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