RG3 anyone?

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  1. kevmvp

    kevmvp Well-Known Member

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    Well obviously the O-Line has to be addressed this off season regardless of whether or not we go after RGIII
     
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  2. jetlife21

    jetlife21 Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather have RG3 with my third rounder than another Dex McDougle
     
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  3. b.reyes16

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    I think the one thing people seem to forget is that the kid has already had success in the league. It can be argued that he had the best rookie season a QB has ever had. I'm not one to look for an excuse, but RG3 is definitely an interesting case. He was very efficient his rookie year and made a ton of plays downfield and with his legs. He gets injured in the playoffs and then rushed back a little too early. He was definitely not ready to play and it showed as he got stuck behind a line where he was frequently hit and couldn't move around as well because of that contraption on his leg. This year, he was, again, hurt early on. And again, the line for the Redskins has been piss poor regardless of the QB in there. It also seems Jay Gruden is trying to push his ego a little bit. He loves his system and RG3 is simply not a good fit for it. I look back at the Chip Kelly quote, "If the system isn't QB friendly, it's not a good system." He broke up the love fest between Snyder and RG3 and benched him for a glorified journeyman 3rd stringer.

    I think it's clear what kind of talent RG3 has. His athleticism is off the charts as is his arm strength. He struggles with accuracy as a product of poor footwork, but still manages to complete a high percentage of his throws. I think this comes from holding on to the ball. He's gun-shy, doesn't want to make mistakes because he knows what Gruden thinks of him. His ability to read a defense is questionable (as it is for most young QB's), but many times can make up for it through pure athleticism. I don't think it's from a lack of intelligence, but moreso inexperience. It's also been said that he spend a little too much time in the weightroom and not a enough time in the filmroom. That may bee unfair considering he's coming off some injuries, but alarming nonetheless.

    He's a top-level talent with a very high ceiling and average floor. He'll always be at least mediocre, but I think everyone expected that next toward superstardom. They had unrealistic expectations because of a video-game like rookie season.

    If it were me, I'd take a shot with a mid-round pick, especially considering his contract situation. It would be a prove-it type contract. We're in desperate need of a QB and RG3 would easily be the most talented QB on our roster since Namath. I'm a huge Mariota fan, but picking up a guy like RG3 with a mid-round pick would free us up to go o-line or secondary early in the draft. If he plays poorly, there's nothing to worry about. He moves on to free agency and we look towards the draft. This seems like it would be a much smarter move than people are giving credit for.
     
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    He ran a gimmick offense and the NFL defenses eventually caught up. RG3 wasn't going to have sustained success until he learned how to become a better pocket passer, and to be honest - he's one of the worst in the league. If I want to take a chance on an injury prone QB - it's Sam Bradford if (more like when) he gets cut.
     
  5. soxxx

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    I always felt like it had a lot to do with Morris but that does not take away the way he played in 2012.

    But honestly, when I watch RG3 now, the guy looks done. He doesn't look like an NFL starter anymore, and it seems like Shanahan and Gruden agree
     
  6. displacedfan

    displacedfan Well-Known Member

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    If he's cheap, yeah. He has to work on a ton of things since his injury. It would be a rebuilding project. I wouldn't mind this as one of our QB options, but not our only QB option
     
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  7. NotSatoshiNakamoto

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    I would prefer Bradford as well. In either case I think a qb should also be drafted high.
     
  8. YOYOYO

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    Not the worst option. Could be interesting if they hire Kyle Shannahan as the HC if they dump Rex.
     
  9. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    I'd do a 5th round pick that could become a 2nd based on performance.

    And that ain't happening. This guy is more immature than Geno.
     
  10. Ozymandias

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    I heard STL wants a 2nd or 3rd for him, pass.

    I'd rather sign Hoyer or Bradford.

    Also, why would anyone want Griffin? He recently threw his teammates under the bus, he's regressed, he's immature and he hasn't played a full season. I can only imagine the shitstorm if he played in NY.
     
  11. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    My stance is this: WE CAN'T HAVE GENO SMITH AS THE STARTER IN THE 2015/16 SEASON.

    Here are our realistic options:

    #1 Draft Marcus Mariota - I would absolutely LOVE option number 1 BUT I don't think we will have a top 4 pick. So, does Idzik have the gusto to move up for him? Is that whats best? To use up more picks to move up? I'm not sold on having to move up for Mariota when we have so many holes to fill on this team.

    #2 Draft Winston - I am so confused with this kid... He has all the talent in the world, great arm, reads defenses super quick and might go undefeated in his collegiate career! HOWEVER, he is an uber douch bag and is very "unclean" player with more skeletons in his closet than Vick... For me he is a boom or bust pick with a lot of headaches in our media circus.

    #3 Draft a QB in the 2nd/3rd round - There are a couple QB in this category Hundley, Grayson, Cook, Prescott, Petty and all have some good qualities BUT none scream franchise QB.

    #4 FA Market RG3 - He has one year left on his deal and would be a low risk with high potential move. It's a pure "show me deal" and we can still draft a young QB we like if it doesn't work out.

    #5 FA Market Bradford - He is the ultimate boom or bust move because he has a good arm, football IQ and skills BUT is the ultimate band aid.

    So these are our options in my opinion... Not an easy decision...
     
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    Makes sense. I think it would be a retro, Tebow-like move if we went after RGIII. But it's not worth it to worry about it until we know who'll be running the team next year.
     
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    At the right price, maybe. But he's too injury prone.
     
  14. dmatt36

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    I wonder what Carolina will do with Cam Newton, his salary jumps to 14 mill next year... It may be slim, but there's a chance he'll be on the market
     
  15. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    I like Can better than any of the other options, but not at 14 mil.

    Draft a pocket passer, beef up the O-line and see how it plays out. Enough with these running QB'S that can't play in the NFL.
     
  16. dmatt36

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    I didn't suggest we trade for him, but I'm not sure cam is worth that 14 million yet to entice Carolina to keep him. In the rare case they let him go we should seriously consider if we realize Geno isn't the answer. Cam can play in this league and can get it done, he has the intangibles I wish our qb's had.
     
  17. Jets69

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    while were at it let's give Andre ware a call too, this board is ridiculous
     
  18. irishwhip03

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    It's funny that all it took was like 3 weeks of Vick and this report for everyone to sour on possibly bringing in a mobile guy as our next QB.

    This should be a huge red flag to anyone that wants Mariota. Forget the spread option argument but this kid is going to be running for his life from day 1 if he goes to a bad team. And then in 3 years you have another RG3 type situation.

    A QB who cant read a defense is fucked behind a bad oline.

    We need a guy that can drop back , get rid of the ball and move the chains.

    Watch mobile QB's..they stare down WR's , get flushed , scramble , try to make something out of nothing , and usually get sacked, throw it away or get picked. Last years good teams like San Fran and Carolina cant even overcome this. How would we?

    If anything we should hope like hell the Skins want to move Cousins for a 3rd rounder. He's not great but he's better than anything else that will be available.
     
  19. Rockinz

    Rockinz Well-Known Member

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    Cousins doesn't have an NFL arm and loves to force the ball that leads to turnovers. He is a poor man's Sanchez...

    No thanks!
     
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  20. bhav2k1

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    For those that want RG3, read this:

    (for some reason I can't post links?)

    it is the Chris Cooley article in washington post
     

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