If these new reports are true from the "anonymous sources" inside the Jets Locker room, he needs to go, like yesterday. Paranoia. Going on a "witch-hunt" to find out who said the negative comments about him in the media. This guy is a fuckin nut case
I don't think you really understand the personnel. You are suggesting that Idzik has restocked the roster with 2 drafts worth of young talented players, supplemented by a few shrewd FAsignings, all of which need another year or two to improve or gel. His drafts have been BAD, from Geno Smith to a 2014 draft which by all reasonable measures will lack an impact player, while at best may yield 2 "average" starters. In the opinion of every bonafide draft expert he has had 2 bad drafts. Sometimes a quick decision is warranted. Why would any sane football person think that the Idzik personnel when combined with an Idzik hand picked coach would turn things around. There is zero evidence of that.
I would keep idzik but he would need to be fully involved in the coaching choice and knows he goes as his coaching pick goes. I see reason to fire him but i think i would give him his coaching pick. I also don't think he's been terrible. The draft has been the big concern, but I really like the amaro pick and trading for ivory and harvin and getting decker and kerley for at market or below are all wins in my book. I would keep Idzik but stress that it would be a rare circumstance for him to get a 3rd HC
I think Rex is gone. I think Woody will give Idzik the chance to bring in his own coach. Firing Idzik after 2 years would be Woody admitting an epic fail and probably giving the appearance that he folded to public pressure. Then again, with this organization, who the hell knows?
Do I want him to be fired? Yes Will he be fired? No If woody had any sort of brain and to give this franchise and fan base hope he would be calling bill polian and giving him the keys to the organization. Polian would have a say on talent, draft picks, trades, contract negotiations and obviously the head coach selection...Polians track record speaks for itself...even if he drafted someone I haven't heard of I could take solice in the fact the pick would turn out to be good just based on what he's built in the past...can't say the same for idzik...but polian would give this franchise what we haven't had in almost 10 years...HOPE
Your arguments lack forethought. First, this is the NFL and EVERY single team is in WIN NOW status. That was a silly statement to make. NO ONE forfeits the season they are in today for tomorrow when there is no such thing as "tomorrow" in the NFL. As well...if you honestly believe in your final paragraph then it made zero sense to extend Rex Ryan and then fire him after this season.......if, as you say, his focus was not on winning this season but to put together "young, quality" talent for the future. Also, I would REALLY like to have a sit down discussion with you on what YOU think young, quality talent is. Because, outside the defensive line I do not see ANY young quality talent...none that has proven themselves that's for sure. We have a ton of "young" but we are sorely lacking in the "talent" department. To reference your second paragraph...12 picks has resulted in NOTHING. Zip...zero...nada. Pryor has been almost nothing as a contributor and the same can be said for every single draft pick on down...the ones that are still with the team that is. 12 picks...ZERO impact whatsoever this season. Idzik, to date, has almost a 100% failure rate in his drafts as far as "IMPACT" players are concerned. The lone bright spot is Richardson and he was hand picked by Ryan. Not a very substantial or well thought out post.
i think he will be fired or demoted in some capacity come the end of season. he won't be handed the keys to move forward with all Jets strategic decisions.
I am positive word is going to get up to Woody...If guys like Wilkerson, Shelden, Mangold, D'Brick, Harris talk with Woody and say I don't trust Idzik to be our GM Woody would have to make the change.
Rightly or wrongly the media blitz against Idzik is building. There is blood in the water and they are going after him. In the last few days we have seen the Idzik wanted to fire Rex at the end of the season story, the Idzik overruled Rex forcing him to start Geno against the Phins story and the Idzik would not let Rex talk to the media about visiting his cancer stricken dad during the bye week as it might portray Rex in a sympathetic light.. Unless the Jets have a turn around and start winning these anti-Idzik stories will just multiply. Idzik is not likeable and does not seem to have friends in the media. Idzik is gone. It sounds like there is some real dysfunction going on with the Jets right now between the FO, CS and the players. I went to the Bills game Monday in Detroit and I watched Idzik before the game and he seemed to get the cold shoulder from everyone in the organization. While everyone was running around shaking hands, back slapping and doing pre-game hugs there was Idzik standing alone with his arms folded looking quite friendless. No one would even go near him. Player, coach, etc. I get the impression that he may not have very many friends except the ones he has brought in. I would expect to see things only get worse and the Bills game Monday to become more of the norm the last 5 games. When will the players just give up. Unless we have a turn around Idzik is done.
My first thought when I read this was, "Man, I don't want the Jets to be in same conversation as a bad organization like the Browns." Then I remembered we ARE a bad organization like the Browns. Ugh.
Last I checked, the Browns are in the playoff conversation. Kinda strange to look down on a team and organization that's better than we are.
The backlash against Idzik is too much to ignore and will carry into next year. Woody has no choice but to fire him IMO.
Give Idzik the job he does best. Make him our Cap guru and let him count the dollars. Keep him as far away from making personnel decisions as possible.
It's funny too because they fired GMs repeatedly. Tom Heckert and Michael Lombardi came and went in back to back years.
Think of it as a lab experiment. You try different things until you get the result you want. Until then, you go back in the lab and try, try again until you get it right. Once you do, then you have the luxury to be "consistent".
That's a possibility. And not a bad idea. Woody could hire a personnel guy and give him a fancy title and tell everyone he reports to Idzik. Woody could then save face and not be accused of firing a guy only in his second year (it didn't work so badly for the Browns who were killed for doing the same thing to their HC last year). And get the press off his back on Idzik. In reality the new guy would really be running the football operation. I still believe Idzik deserves a chance to build the team and don't agree with front runners who are killing him because of the secondary, etc. If you draft guys and they are injured and out for the year or are slow developing but not a bust it doesn't mean you suck at your job (yet).
No need to exacerbate a bad decision by sticking with it. Idzik was the wrong choice because if his plan was to replace Rex he still had to do it without the organization looking like a mess and any failure attributable to Rex. That's what he has failed at because Idzik has been as equally bad at putting the team together as Rex has been at coaching it.
I'm just curtious, but how is Rex the "winningest" coach in Jets history? Do you mean that he has the highest winning percentage? He doesn't. Bill Parcells does (.604 Vs. .494). Do you mean that he has the most wins? He doesn't. Weeb Ewbank does (71 vs 48).
