Sanchez Kicking Ass In Philly

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  1. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    You can pretty much track his success and failure from the beginning of 2011 with the advent of that stinger.

    When Ngata destroyed him in week 4, he rebounded pretty quickly, then when they played the Broncos in week 11 and Von Miller destroyed him, he came back well in the following few weeks. Then Jason Babin (Eagles) cheap shotted him in the side of the helmet after the whistle, is dropped like a sack of laundry and he was worthless for the rest of the season. The same thing happened against the Steelers in week 2 of 2012, and Sanchez looked like a deer in headlights for most of the season.

    So if you are asking me whether he needs to have his head affected to weaken his ability for multiple games?

    Yep. And the Packers game was just the beginning, I'm hoping for his sake that he can stay healthy for the rest of the season, but it's very unlikely. And when Sanchez plays injured, he's an absolute turnover machine. You're lying to yourself if you believe otherwise.
     
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    Injured or not, I just think he's turnover-proned period which is fine provided he's making winning plays those to essentially nullify those TOs (TD, key 3rd down conversion, game tying/winning drive, executing a 2 minute offense for a score before the half, changing to the right plays at the LOS…etc.). If/when the former is consistently trumping the latter, then that's when there's a problem like in 2012 and the tail end of 2011.
     
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    Injured or not, I just think he's turnover-proned period which is fine provided he's making winning plays those to essentially nullify those TOs (TD, key 3rd down conversion, game tying/winning drive, executing a 2 minute offense for a score before the half, changing to the right plays at the LOS…etc.). If/when the former is consistently trumping the latter, then that's when there's a problem like in 2012 and the tail end of 2011.

    Edit: It's like having a #1 ranked defense that can't get of the field when the game is in the balance or that's just above average in points allowed. What's the point? I'd much rather have the defense with the above average ranking that has a knack for getting the big stop and getting staunchy in the red zone.
     
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    I remember it was just the type of throws Sanchez threw that drove me nuts...They were so unnecessary.

    First one drives me NUTS, that guy was so open but Sanchez only eyes ONE GUY and thats it...Had someone open with 30 yards of open space.
    Second one...Just no, no, no NO!

    The INT's so far this season stem from the same crap
     
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    Two obvious problems with this:

    1) It's only "fine" to be turnover-prone if the plays that serve to "nullify" the turnovers significantly outnumber the turnovers. For instance, an equal number of TDs and INTS (a TD/INT ratio of 1) is not particularly good. You want that number to easily be above 1. Brett Favre was allowed to be turnover prone because the guy threw a million touchdown passes. (And even then, he is drastically overrated in annuls of NFL history) The bottom line is that Sanchez is far too turnover-prone for his (generally) meager production. He just has to find a way to cut down on his mistakes.

    2) Sanchez's play over the course of his career hasn't been analogous to having a defense with an "above average ranking," but instead, has been analogous to having a defense with a below average ranking. (i.e. Sanchez's statistical production has been below average, not above average)
     
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    When he got hit in Pittsburgh in 2012 I thought it hurt his ability that year.
     
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    Luckily we have 6 games left, so this one negative will get buried and forgotten real quickly.
     
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    That first INT, I remember vividly - I almost threw my remote at the TV. Like WTF was that. Could have easily checked down.
     
  9. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    We?

    There goes your chance for Jets poster of the year, LOL.
     
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    That is why I loved Unitas. He played with all kinds of injuries, and he would spit in your face as you hit him.
     
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    I haven't seen the Packers game yet so I'll use the Texans game as my example. That game I believe he had a TD ratio of 1 (2 TDs and 2 INTs). That might be "not particularly good" from a statistical standpoint but I thought he played well that game. If I could get that kind of play from my QB most weeks, I wouldn't be hung that his INTs were equal to his INTS. With regards to Sanchez being too to turnover-prone for his (generally) meager production, I guess that depends on your end game. If it's to have the QB of your team be considered one of the best QBs in the league or in the "annuls of NFL history", then yes. However, if it's to field a competitive team capable of challenging for a playoff spot then not necessarily. By the way, a QB's production is greatly impacted by what kind of offense he is asked to run. For the Eagles, Sanchez has already amassed 880 yards 6 TDs in 11 quarters of football. That extrapolates to 5,000+ yards and 35 TDs in 16 games. Numbers that just looking at his production with the Jets would seem impossible for Mr. Buttfumble. The INTs would extrapolates to 23 for those of you care (I know you're out there).
     
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    Too young to have seen Unitas play but I know there were many of plays with the Jets that I wished Sanchez did just go straight fetal position like Peyton and Brady instead of trying to something out of nothing.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Now you can complain about me taking posts out of context.

    And it won't matter.
     
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    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Your failure to understand quoting posts has undermined your ability to respond.

    By the way, if you really want to support Sanchez, maybe you should watch his games. Otherwise you are pretending to understand the argument.
     
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    The first one was a sick punt and the second one was in preseason so it doesn't matter.


    Lmaooooo
     
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    That pump fake throw in the first gif Sanchez literally had TWO guys open underneath but then he throws it to the double-covered guy downfield. That's typical.
     
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    haha! that's a great sentence
     
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    Ha ha ha. Yes. l I would not mind this habit so much if he had Brady/Manning type numbers.
     
  20. jdon

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    I cannot fathom why anyone would want to watch Mark Sanchez QB their team week in and week out. Unless it was a man crush or something. As far as I am concerned, he really does not give a hoot. All those post stinker press conferences where he says "These games just happen." He did it again after last week's game. Oy.
     
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