Wow. Wisenhunt is an imbecile. Wastes a crucial TO trailing by 3. When we these coaches learn that challenges aren't lottery tickets?? NO SHOT IN HELL that was getting overturned. Has this guy ever seen a football game in the past 10 years?
First of all, we don't need a running back. Ivory is a stud. Second of all, where were you when he rushed for 56 yards combined in the last two games? One of which was the Jets? Because a guy has one unbelievable game against the shit ass Titans, we should have drafted him? Give me a fuckin break.
Chris Ivory is averaging 4.5 ypc and has 5 TD. Why again should we have taken a 2nd round running back when we got Ivory for a 4th?
Well, I'd rather have Bell than Ivory, and combined with the fact that we miss on nearly every offensive pick we ever take, Bell could help this team. Wouldn't you rather have Bell and Ivory over Geno and Ivory? Also you could say it would be redundant to have both Bell and Ivory, it still would be better than the tandem we use.
And why is that? What's a reason why you would rather have Bell over Ivory? Ivory came cheaper and has tremendous upside. The only thing Bell has going for him is his youth, but Ivory doesn't have the wear and tear a guy of his age usually has. And you say you'd rather have Bell and Ivory, but that wasn't the right pick at the time. We had Chris Ivory on our team with a very good Bilal Powell. Geno Smith was the best rated QB in that draft and fell into our hands in the second round. Hindsight is 20/20 but at the time, Geno was an excellent pick. High upside with very little downside. If he fails, as he has, we lost a second rounder rather than a first. Don't start with the hypothetical bullshit. Geno Smith was a good pick based on value and our needs. Bell was not the proper pick.
LOL. Geno was an excellent pick? Anybody who watched him play knew he would be a bust. It's not in hindsight for me. I said it was terrible pick. There was a reason Geno fell, the guy thought he would be a top 5 pick gimme a break. As for Ivory? How can you possibly say he has more upside than a 2nd year pro outplaying him already. Don't be a homer.
I don't blame the Jets for their 2nd round pick but Bell has much better hands than Ivory. Still don't like Bell getting arrested in the offseason, shows some immaturity but besides that's....he's been pretty good. For instance, Eric Smith went ahead of Kyle Williams and Brandon Marshall in the 2006 NFL Draft, that was a bad pick. Happens all the time.
ehhh.... that boy the truth, been ballin all year. But i agree with everything else, we had no business drafting him.
Comparison to Ivory is marginal, at best. Ivory has not been our workhorse. He should be, but with the addition of Johnson, he hasn't been. Because of that he has carried the ball 123 times this year. Not including tonight, Bell has carried the ball 162 times. Bell is averaging 4.6 ypc while Ivory is averaging 4.5. Ivory has 5 TD to Bell's 1. I get it, young talented back. The fact is, we didn't need him and the only thing Bell has going for him over Ivory is his age. Bell is a very good back, but so is Ivory. Give Ivory all the carries and he will put up a monster year. Our needs didn't justify Bell in the second round and Ivory has done as good or better than Bell has.
We just need an o-line. Ivory is for sure a slept on RB. People look pass the fact that breaks tackles in the backfield before he picks up his YPC, thats why he led the league last year. If we can get a big time RG (Iupati please) then the sky would be the limit for Ivory. for a while his YPC was up with Demarco's earlier this year.
As far as all the "type of QB" talk, I wish there were more Aaron Rodgers in the NFL. I love Brady and wouldn't want another QB, Manning is obviously among the best ever as well, these guys are Joe Montana clones for the era they play in, amazing to watch those two, well, Manning moreso 3-4 years ago, he's still fantastic but a lot less exciting to watch these days because, IMO, it's his receivers doing the bulk of the work where as 5 years ago it was mostly on him delivering darts around the field. Brady can still sling it to less reliable guys due to not having had, what, 4(?) neck surgeries? But, Rodgers. Man. He's nearly as good as a pure pocket passer as both of those guys and can run like Luck, just a hair beneath the Kaepernicks, RG3s, and Newton's/Wilson's of the NFL. I wish I could call him the future of the NFL but he's as much as a "once in a lifetime" talent as Manning, Brady, and Montana are. He's Joe Montana from the waist up and Steve Young from the waist down. Option QBs are so boring. As a trick play, it's fun, when you see it a few times every other game, as the main play of your offense? I quickly grew sick of Tebow. Give me a QB who can just mentally destroy a defense with the arm to follow any day over the one who can extend a play for 15 seconds running around like a headless chicken. If Rodgers can win as many SBs as Brady before he's done, the only thing he'll be lacking to be called the greatest QB ever is the career longevity, unless he plays for 17-20. He's missed too many games to injury and didn't start his career early enough, and to date is lacking enough SB wins. The "ideal" quarter back is the player who is a near pure-passer, is willing to hand the ball off inside the 5, and will extend plays while running only as a last option. The more players like that that CFB turns out, the longer the NFL will be great. As much as I love the running game, I don't want the NFL to devolve into 500 yard rushing performances every week with 40 combined pass attempts in a game if you're lucky.
Very little downside my ass!!! He had HUGE downside. We wasted two fucking years on him. We have become the laughingstock of the league because of him. We missed out on a great QB draft class because of him, franchise QB's have been drafted to other teams because we had to pass over them! And don't say anything about hindsight because more than half of this teams fanbase was cursing at their TV when that pick was made.
Love Wilson, but how often has he been asked to single handedly carry the load? The Seahawks have had the top 5 ranked rushing offense and are probably averaging the 30th ranked passing attack over his career. He's a game manager who can make game changing plays, but is very rarely asked to do it all so it's very hard to know if he's capable. How will he react to being asked to pass 55 times in a game? He's still one of my top ranked QBs in the NFL today, inside of the top 10, but that could say more about the state of the QBs than it does about Wilson. The fact that he'd probably be a top 5 drafted player in the draft redo isn't because he's a can't miss QB but because its that hard to find a QB who won't lose games for you today, thats the state of the NFL at times.
Great post and all, but ftr, Rodgers missed 1 game a few years ago, and missed less than a half season last year. Don't act like he has been injury prone forever until this season.
