Drafts Not Bradway's Fault?

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  1. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    There's been plenty of bitching about Bradway on here. Scouting was on him and we've missed on a lot of picks. Clearly we are getting bad opinions on players coming out of college. But is this really Bradway's fault?

    Tonight, I met someone who is good friends with Terry Bradway's son. And I learned a lot tonight. Apparently, Bradway has been greatly ignored for a few seasons now. Most notably, he wanted Russel Wilson over Stephen Hill and fought hard for Wilson but they passed over his advice. And that's just one of many picks.

    What kind of organization ignores the advice of their head of scouting so often? Ridiculous.
     
  2. Jonathan_Vilma

    Jonathan_Vilma Well-Known Member

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    Everyone thought Russell Wilson was going to be a stud after he was already successful. This really holds no weight especially when a friend of a friend of a sons third cousin is saying it.

    What's he going to say? Bradway's done a terrible job and deserves to be fired?
     
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  3. 24McNeil

    24McNeil Well-Known Member

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    this whole organization is a joke from the head(woody) on down to the jester(rex). we get it, no need to harp on these stories we've been hearing about for years now.

    team needs to get a bill parcels leader who takes charge of everything, from uniforms we wear, to players we acquire, and to everything in between. till then, we are stuck with a billionaire owner who has never worked a day in his life hiring a head hunter looking for the next bozo who will be fired in a couple of years when woody the clown needs to justify ridiculous psl's instead of just admitting he is completely ripping off his teams fans.....
     
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  4. JetBlue

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    I'd ignore my scouting too if one year removed from back to back championship games when we were invested in Sanchez he was advocating drafting another QB.
     
  5. Jake

    Jake Well-Known Member

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    It's not on one guy, but he's contributed to a lot of mediocre drafts.

    Our drafts seemed to be solid under Mangini, and I'm sure Bradway contributed to those. Overall though, that's a lot of whiffing he's associated with since 01.
     
  6. Greenday4537

    Greenday4537 Well-Known Member

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    Well, think about that. 2009, we made it to the AFCC and lost with a QB who over the season only completed 53.8% of his passes, threw 12 TDs and 12 INTs. Had we a good QB like Russell Wilson playing that game, we probably would have been in the Super Bowl. 2010, Sanchez improved to 54.8%, 17 TDs and 13 INTs. Again, if we had a good QB, we probably would have been in the Super Bowl.

    Would a good QB have made a huge difference in 2011? Easily could have been a few extra wins. But we didn't reach the AFCC twice in a row because Sanchez was a good QB. We missed the Super Bowl two years in a row because we had an inconsistent QB and a defense that only showed up for one half per game.
     
  7. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Since the general consensus is the Jets cant develop a quality young QB , would drafting Wilson even made a difference?
     
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    Wilson won the starting job as a rookie in TC. He wasn't developed. He was already good.
     
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    Right. But Geno won the starting job here too. Even by default.

    My question is would Wilson be the same QB he is now if he was playing 2 years in our system instead?

    Im not one that thinks its our system thats the problem but most people here seem to think Sanchez and Geno being garbage is a coaching problem.
     
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    74 Well-Known Member

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    Seattle has such a great system? It's run the ball, play defense. Sanchez and Geno being garbage is a Sanchez and Geno problem.
     
  11. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, Im not one that thinks a system or even a coaching staff builds a QB.

    If we drafted Wilson Im sure he would've been developing just fine by now because he is more talented than anyone we've had in the last 5 years. Probably wouldn't have won a Superbowl with us but still.
     
  12. gustoonarmy

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    Bradway has the anti-Midas touch, everything he touches turns to shit.

    After his stint at playing GM I can't believe he was given ANY job within the Jets
     
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  13. Unhappyjetsfan

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    Bradway had his chance running the team and he was pathetic. Every time anything went differently than he had planned it to go, he'd panic and trade anything he had to in order to put his plan back together. One panic move after another. And his drafting sucked rocks.*

    He wanted Wilson? terrific. The team ignored him? that sucks.

    Still doesn't change the fact that he ran the team and his performance was awful.

    * "Sucked rocks" may be strong; he was average-at-best as a drafter. His trades and free agent signings blew.
     
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  14. b.reyes16

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    No....we wouldn't have....players aren't simply interchangeable like that....Butterfly effect.....

    Also, Sanchez played very well in both AFCCG so I don't know how inserting a different young QB would effect that.
     
  15. MoWilkBeast

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    There's got to be a reason the Bradway has stuck around the organisation for so long. The Wilson thing has come out before so there's a fair chance there's some substance to that, but there's got to be more to it than hitting on one guy that the organisation didn't go with anyway. It is not impossible that the OP is correct. If he's consistently recommending players that go on to be contributors elsewhere and we overlook these recommendations then that can hardly be counted as his failure. But that's not valid for his time as GM. Of course he could just have some compromising pictures locked away in a vault somewhere as well! We're unlikely to find out what the truth is.
     
  16. Falco21

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    Is this the same guy who saw McDougle at the mall at the start of the season and said he was healthy as ever?
     
  17. Big Blocker

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    Yeah, I think you are right and JB's post that you quoted was not a fair statement. Even if you thought the Jets were going to stick with Sanchez coming out of the 10 season, they were too thin at Qb, Brunell being the backup. Meaning the Jets really did not have a backup. And really the Jets went as far as they did in 9 and 10 despite the presence of Sanchez, not because of it.
     
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    I feel like Terry Bradway goes around talking about how he wanted Wilson over Stephen Hill like Al Bundy talked about scoring 4 TD's in a single game.
     
  19. JetBlue

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    Whether we would have been better in 09, 10 or 11 with a better QB, be it Russell Wilson, Tom Brady or Aaron Rogers is irrelevant.

    What's relevant is during the 2012 draft we were both financially and strategically committed to Mark Sanchez and drafting another QB wasn't a priority.
     
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  20. JetBlue

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    No they did not have a backup QB, and the outcry around the forum at the time was that the Jets needed a veteran backup QB. It is complete hindsight now to be claiming we should have had the foresight to draft Russell Wilson as a backup simply because he has turned out to be pretty good when we had greater needs at that time.

    Sure, the picks we made didn't turn out to be better than Wilson but Wilson wasn't some obvious pick that we missed on to warrant any conversation like skipping on Warren Sapp.
     
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