If Vick can provide stability at QB position, then the coming off-season and free agency should reflect that. 1. If Vick can keep this up [won't be too difficult, as the later part of the schedule is considerably weaker than it was earlier.] it would be sensible to extend his contract to 3-4 years. [Or sign Sanchez for the similar length - but Vick has past experience with MM, so staying with Vick would be prudent.] 2. Then rd 1/2 of the coming draft SHOULD be spent on OL, along with a vet OG tagging along. Jets need to prepare for seasons after Mangold and D'Brick anyway, so that's where they should focus the resource. That also protects Vick, helping the team play complimentary football with more efficacy. 3. 3rd round - If any good QB prospect slips, this is the round for it. [I'm looking at Mannion and Hogan. Mariota won't be available. Jameis Winston can go take a hike.] Whoever is drafted should sit and learn for a year or two. [Which is why drafting QB in 1st is not a good idea here.] 4. Jets should load up on LBs in 4th round. McD and Milliner both returns to the lineup - so that has to help the secondary. Thoughts?
It depends how the season plays out, but as of now bringing back Vick for a season sounds okay if they decide on drafting a rookie QB on Day 1 or Day 2. I would rather have him start off a season than a rookie QB. I don't know about a three to four year deal though unless it's virtually non-guaranteed after the first year. I'd also like the idea of signing Hoyer or Sam Bradford if he's cut. Line definitely has to improve. I think an OT relatively early in the draft could be ideal and I'm with you at the guard position; they need one surefire starter. Maybe Aboushi is the guy on one side or he could at least be in competition with Winters for one. Aboushi apparently had a very good game this past Sunday by PFF standards. Still need a lot of CB help even assuming Milliner and McDougle come back healthy. Looks like we might have something in Marcus Williams, but we'll get to evaluate that in the next six games. Also like Walls as a reserve and will keep an eye on Adams too. I want a big-time free agent corner like Chris Harris or Byron Maxwell and maybe another guy in the draft/free agency. I'd be fine with Harris and Davis at ILB next season assuming Harris isn't asking for too much given his age. I'd like to see another draft pick at ILB though (really thought Jeremiah George would be that guy.... Still can't believe they outright cut the guy so fast). I think the team could GET BY with Coples/Pace/Babin again, but I would really prefer a pass-rusher drafted on Day 1 or 2. Picking high, someone like Shane Ray, Randy Gregory or Dante Fowler could be available.
I'd prefer Mannion + 2 years holding a clip board over a better prospect starting next year. I think we have to go O-line one way or another in this draft--
Would love to address the linebacker and cornerback position too, even if its in the free agency.I hope to god Kyle Wilsons cut, so that leaves McDougle and Milliner as a definite for next year and hopefully the other guys step up. That may actually leave us just lacking in a #1 cornerback.
Probably depends on who the next head coach is, assuming Rex gets canned. A new HC will hopefully be able to choose his OC, and the new offense may not be a fit for Vick. Sanchez will never play for this team again.
Of course, the assumption was that, Jets play decently [going 5-1 or 4-2] and end the season on a high note; after that, Rex and MM returns. [If MM doesn't return, then Vick discussion doesn't even make sense anyway.]
smfh we win one game versus a team that clearly didn't come to play, are 2-8, and now we want to keep rex and have Vick be our QB.
Why would Sanchez EVER want to come back here? I mean, fuck Drew Bledsoe, but there is some truth to what he said.
If he continues to play competently, I have no issue keeping Vick as a potential stopgap solution (and provider of talented depth) at the position. Having made that point abundantly clear, he has exhibited a rather well-documented history of being far too injury prone to be counted on as a number 1 option over an extended period of time. I think we would need to bring in another experienced veteran, a guy we'd have no issue playing with our season on the line, to make this plan feasible. As for the draft, I've been writing on here for years now that a team without a franchise quarterback should pick a QB somewhere in EVERY draft until it finds one. It doesn't have to be a 1st or 2nd round pick. But, at some point, we should always be looking to take a quarterback who we like, until we find a guy who is a legitimate franchise quarterback.
I can get behind this. Even past finding a legit franchise QB-- that guy is going to need competent backups. Besides, the team should ALWAYS be developing young QBs-- maybe we'll eventually do it successfully.
Vick plays too reckless to be anything other then a week to week option. At this stage he's a solid back-up. But if he goes into next year as our number 1 and we dont have a backup thats capable and ready then we are in trouble. Vick could take one hit in the Buffalo game and be done. Its risky to call him a part of our future. As for resigning Sanchez , there's no way we would and there's no reason he would come here. He needs a Kelly-type offense both gameplan wise and talent wise to be successful. There are two types of capable QB's in this league. Ones that make the players around them better (Rodgers, Brees, Peyton, Brady) and ones that need good players around them to succeed. Sanchez falls in the latter.
Personally I think it's too early to predict draft picks. I should say WAY too early. Yes we can identify areas of need, but some of them can be filled in FA. It does seem from the little I've read that, unfortunately, there will not be as many Cb prospects in FA as last off season. But Cb is definitely an area of need that the OP did not mention. I'd hate to have to use the first round pick there, given the scenarios at Qb and OL that need attention. But Cb is a huge problem going forward. I share concerns about Vick's ability to avoid injury. But he doesn't look his age, and other than some nagging foot injury is healthy right now. Imo it would be silly to look elsewhere just because of a fear of injury to him. Plus as was covered here yesterday, Vick does not have much likely competition from other Qb's in the upcoming FA period. I've heard some say wait to see how Vick does the rest of the way here. But I would be very surprised to see him lay an egg from here on out. Realistically if he can look as efficient as he did after only his second week of practice with the first team, with skill position players on O quite healthy and all on board, and perhaps most promising Aboushi playing better each week instead of the still underwhelming Winters, we have every reason to think Vick will look at least as good as Sunday the rest of the way. Yeah he may turn the ball over, but nowhere near Smith's rate. As far as I am concerned it is not too early to say Vick should be back at least one more year.
1. Would love to see Vick here on a 2-3 year front loaded contract. 2. Would trade the farm to move up for Mariota and let him sit behind Vick for a year at a minimum, 2 if Vick can stay healthy. Simms as the number 2-3. 3. Sanchez will never play here again, and he's not signing a 3-4 year lowball contract in any event. _
If Mariota is chosen, he will have to sit. I don't envision him stepping into a normal NFL offense and being good for a while anyway. He might need at least a half season to sit and watch. As of this date, I find Winston to be a better prospect but he is a weirdo. If drafted by the Jets, some people will immediately say it was a stupid pick. Others will say it took a lot of courage to select him.
I don't think any rookie QB should start for us next year. both of those two QB's are such high risk. This is turning out not to be the year to have a high pick if you're looking for a QB. The sad thing is that the 2014 draft was loaded with a lot of talented QB's ... particularly in the mid-rounds. Too bad we waited until Round 6 to take Taj Boyd..... Wasted opportunity.
Oh, I would sit Winston too. It is just that I think Winston is more pro-ready. I think Mariota will have to be treated like Palmer, Culpepper, Pennington and Rivers and have him sit for the first year no matter what. But you know how it is in very recent years. The owners push for the young QBs and the GM and HC get antsy and the fans call for it.
The farm, the zoo, the house and the cars. Or let's endure another decade of shitty football. It all starts with the QB. You have to have a franchise QB, this way isn't working. _
