So if we have an 8-8 year where we win all the close games, followed by an 8-8 year where we lose all the close games, with the same coach, who should we blame? Just trying to iron out your logic, here....
First of all, we are no where near getting to 8-8 this season. Secondly, it's not about one or two seasons. It's about four straight non-winning seasons. It's about eight three game losing streaks in six years. It's about being 16-29 in the last 45 games. It's about being a mistake prone team, week in and week out. It's about still having one of the worst passing offenses in football, after six years of it clearly being our biggest weakness. It's about the big picture with Rex.
You're right, its not because of the coaching. The coaching has been bad for 6 years, but now we don't have the talent to overcome it. Spot on.
The team has been playing hard all along. that hasn't been the issue this season.. if lack of effort was our biggest issue, we'd be able to turn the team around very quickly. unfortunately that is not the case.
Bill Cowher and Tom Coughlin both almost got fired because of a stretch of bad seasons before winning Super Bowls: Bill Cowher 1997 11-5 1998 7-9 1999 6-10 The Jets would have fired him, the Steelers recognized that despite his declining record he was still a great HC, and he went on to 4 more 10+ win seasons and a SB championship Tom Coughlin 2000 7-9 2001 6-10 2002 6-10 2003 6-10 http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CougTo0.htm A much worse stretch than Rex ever had, and still he went on to win 2 Super Bowls for the Giants! Again, the Jets would have fired him before that happened, and Giants fans wanted him canned too. But with Rex, let's just blindly look at his record and drive him out of town. <smh> (btw, I'm a "clown" because I dare to post a differing opinion sometimes. I probably would have been attacked also for daring to post that the Giants should keep Coughlin or the Steelers should keep Cowher after their bad seasons, before they went on to win super bowls)
I love that they still play hard for Rex. He's a great motivator and his players love him. Unfortunately, his teams have been mistake prone, undisciplined, lousy offensively, and unable to generate turnovers on defense. To me, it is time for a change, but I will wish him the best of luck.
The cursing aside, I would think most fans would appreciate a coach with a little fire in his belly, especially after all the lowlifes we've had in years past. I mean, he's a football coach, not a UN ambassador. ...... I mean, isn't it every fan's dream to have a coach who reacts the way WE react in front of our TVs when the team blows a play or loses a tough one?
That's a really selective way of looking at Coughlin's record considering the first three seasons were in Jacksonville and he WAS fired for it. And Cowher coached for an organization that doesn't fire coaches period (and is usually justified in it). Plus Cowher got two losing seasons, whoopdie doo - Rex has gotten two .500 seasons and a losing season before now.
1) That 98-99 Cowher stretch isn't anywhere near as bad as Rex's current stretch. First of all, it was only two bad seasons (Why did you include the 1997 11-5 season??? That equals Rex's BEST Jets season. LOL). After this season, Rex will have had four straight non-winning, non-playoff years. Also, before that 98-99 stretch, Cowher had amassed a record of 64-32, won 5 division titles, and had gotten to a Superbowl. (Rex Ryan is currently 44-46 with no division titles and no Superbowl appearances) Yeah, Cowher had some terrible playoff losses at home . . . with Neil O Donnell and kordell Stewart at QB. (The only truly inexcusable loss was at home against SD in the 94 Championship game). He still had a Markedly better record in 1999 than Rex does now. 2) Tom Coughlin probably deserved to be fired in Jacksonville (which, of course, he was). His team fell apart. And btw, his Giants record has been highly uneven, to say the least.
Uhh the stretch you posted for Tom Coughlin got him fired minus 2003 because he didn't coach in 2003. Then he got his QB in 2004 draft and won a SB in year #4 there. Cowher is a good pick. Although for every exception, there are a multiple number of head coaches who had poor stretches like Rex, got fired, and didn't win a SB with a team. Cowher pre 1997, 11-5 9-7 12-4 11-5 10-6 Very selective start date for your Cowher example. 5 straight winning seasons before 97, 6 before the 1998 season.
Exactly. Just to summarize the sublime silliness of the Cowher comparison: Cowher after 1999 (the selectively chosen date by our resident Rex supporter) was: 77-51, with 5 division titles, and 1 Superbowl appearance Rex is currently: 44-46, with no division titles and no Superbowl appearances. Cowher after his first six seasons: 64-32, with 5 division titles, and 1 Superbowl appearance Rex after his first six seasons: 44-46 with no division titles and no Superbowl appearances.
It's annoying, because I like Rex too. But this idea that he's blame free in all of this is silly. I don't put the GM stuff on him. He's missed on developing 2 young QBs now, that worried me. Maybe it's the QBs, maybe it's him. I don't want to see him get a third shot, too scared about that
There was a lot of crap going on in that game. Many extra hits on Vick that were not called which was BS. I know the hit by Babin was totally stupid, but look at the play, his face was in the chest of the defender, so he didn't see that play had stopped. Not making excuses because he should have heard the whistle. So Rex was very pissed at that crew for not protecting his QB.
Judging by the Sanchez performance last night and the game before that, looks like Chip Kelly's system is more conducive to developing young Qb's in the modern era than the ground and pound. Best thing ever to happen to Sanchez was getting away from Rex and the Jets. I have this strange feeling Eugene isn't as bad as he looks in this system. We just don't do well developing Qb's. You have to wonder if Aaron Rodgers would be simply mediocre at best today if Rex was his first coach. It's that Ryan DNA at work folks.
