$21 million unused in cap-space and a sixth straight defensive player taken in the 1st round

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  1. Walt White

    Walt White Well-Known Member

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    Vlad and Hill were killers.

    OP: You just can't label Pryor a bust at this point. Sorry
     
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  2. pclfan

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    I doubt the NFL would tolerate a Wilpon type situation where they allow a franchise to intentionally underspend. So I don't think it's on Woody that they underspent the cap. They have every intention of spending every cent. But you have to spend smartly and not load yourself with bad contracts and players you can't get rid of. Actually they did spend money on free agents incl the most expensive FA wide receiver in Decker. The question is: were these wise decisions including the players drafted. Time will tell. So far things don't look too good.
     
  3. Jetsruby

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    Milliner sucks. I've seen enough of him already to know he's not starter worthy
     
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  4. 24McNeil

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    lol, this is being generous....keller was a bust and so is coples....and pryor will soon be declared one too....

    that only leaves wilk and sheld as non busts....

    ...not to mention it's an offensive league now and we're the only team not to get that memo.....

    woody is a dope and probably a junkie just like the colts owner.....except.....we're not luck-y like colts fans.....
     
  5. 24McNeil

    24McNeil Well-Known Member

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    dude, is this for real?? lol....

    ....sanchez was drafted 6 overall.....serviceable is not an excuse.....anything but a franchise qb is a bust.....serviceable works for a 3-7 rd pick......

    ....coples has more sacks than gholston???.....so do thousands of other players.....including many, many free agent pick-ups......come on....

    .....pryor, looks like kyle Wilson all over again.....no where to be seen except getting beat.....

    ....milliner....minus two games in his career has been one of the biggest busts in Jets history.....can't even get off IR......

    and Wilson......if your going to credit him for still playing....how about.... he can't crack the starting unit.....on the WORST defensive backfield in the nfl....and he gets beat more than ray rice's wife...

    this has got to be one of the most delusional posts I've ever seen on tgg.....stop sniffing glue bro.....
     
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  6. rammagen

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    Way to early for milner and pryor to be labeled busts. Coples and Sanchez are serviceable.
    I know there are allot of angry fans I am one of them but this is just too far reaching
     
  7. Bellows1

    Bellows1 Well-Known Member

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    First round picks should be NFL ready day one. Top 10 picks should be game changers... in theory.
    As depleted as the Jets were at every position last season, every decent pick could have been a starter for us and been an improvement.
    Pryor, Coples and Milliner get more time, mostly because we have so many other needs, not because they play so well.
     
  8. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    I'm not writing off Pryor, he's just in a shit situation, developmentally.

    Coples should have been traded this past offseason for whatever could be gotten. Even in a package. They could have used him to move up.

    Milliner has all star ability and soft tissue vulnerability. I wanted to like him, but next season is nearing lost cause territory if he can't stay healthy. We don't even know that we have in him after two seasons.
     
  9. milo

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    Labeling Pryor a bust at this point is unfair simply because Rex, out of necessity, has tried to turn him into something he's not. The guy's not a deep middle safety at this level. If he got to play in a more solidified secondary where he belongs (in the box) I think we all feel different about him.

    Milliner's getting close to bust territory, but this is what happens when you draft guys in the top ten who have already had 5 surgeries before they play a down in pro football.

    Just think if we had taken Vaccaro at that spot instead of Milliner...would've solved both problems.
     
  10. abyzmul

    abyzmul R.J. MacReady, 21018 Funniest Member Award Winner

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    Vaccaro would have been a better selection, but it's a real gamble to take a safety that early.
     
  11. milo

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    The bigger gamble (and one day teams might get wise to this) might be taking ANYONE from Alabama that early. Saban's been running a long-con on the NFL for years now, and his buddy Rex may have fallen for it yet again. People just assume that because these guys are coached up by Saban that they'll be pro ready. I'd argue that they're coached so well in college that by the time they hit the pros you've already seen their ceiling.
     
  12. James Hasty

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    It actually worked very well when Tanny was here.

    Most of our big free agent acquisitions were great - Pace, Faneca, Woody, Cromartie (trade), Devito, Jenkins (trade), Tomlinson, T. Jones (trade), Leonhard, Favre (trade), B. Scott - what is not to like?

    Tanny's biggest problem was overpaying players when handing out contract extensions to our "core players". He gave out $8-10+ mil per year extensions like they were candy to Brick, Mangold, Harris, Revis, Cro, Sanchez, Holmes, Pouha (he got $5-6 mil). That is how we ended up in cap hell, not the free agents.
     
  13. championjets69

    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Just for nothing U left Vlad out. Being a STHer since 65 I can tell you that the incompetance goes all the way back to 1970 which will tell U why we have been losers now for 45 years & counting
     
  14. JetsVilma28

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    Morningwhig is a major failure at coaching, evaluating talent (Powell) vs old shitty running back, hand cuffing quarterbacks and preparing the team for battle (zero adjustments same offense from the shotgun every week).

    "Geno doesn't know how to play from center". GTFO he's NFL quarterback. It's easy, turn around and hand the ball off to a running back with a lead blocker.

    Morningwhig calling TO in greenbay should have lost his job. Not your place morny, idiot.
     
  15. James Hasty

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    We learned the hard way that Andy Reid was the brains of the operation in Philly.

    If Rex somehow survives this off-season we need a major purge of assistant coaches starting with Marty,
     
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  16. Cromartie's_kid

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    Coples isn't a bust as a player - he is a bust in the sense that Rex drafted him as a luxury pick (which should never happen in the first round) and ruined him by trying to make him something he is not. It is an error by the coaching staff/front office but I do not put this on Coples - he has no choice in the matter.
     
  17. displacedfan

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    Tanny had two big problems.

    He undervalued draft picks. 3 total picks in the 2009 draft? 4 in 2010. You better be outstanding at draft if you want to sustain success that way. That led to the above which you mentioned, the extensions and overpaying players because you didn't have young guys to fill in
     
  18. LongIslandBlitz

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    Yea and the sky isn't blue
     
  19. Jets69

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    Trade Coples?? But he's a complete beast, just ask the homers on this board, agreed should've been traded no question, complete waste of a pick, funny the word coming out of college was Coples was lazy an took plays off, that is now a fact
     
  20. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Doesn't he have to play an entire season once in his career?
     

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