Jets Fans Trying to Put Up Fire Idzik Billboard !!!

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  1. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    Jesus Christ! That's the best idea I've heard all day.
     
  2. Acad23

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    Jimmy Johnson ain't going anywhere except fishing.
     
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  3. jonnyd

    jonnyd 2007 TGG.com Funniest Poster Award Winner

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    4 trillion?
     
  4. deathstar

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    Good for the fans.

    Your team is run by a bunch of morons.

    The media attention from this is worth many times over than the $10k actually spent.
     
  5. pdxdrew

    pdxdrew Well-Known Member

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    What's wrong with dominating your money to protest something. Americans donate money to all sorts of worthless shit. Take Public Broadcasting. Do we really need to see another sappy Ken Burns doc?
     
  6. Walt White

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    Eat, sleep, go fishin'....and pop an Enzyte now and then...Livin' large down in Florida :)
     
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  7. GangGreenBlues

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    Yes it does matter. And it's not about McDougle being an impact player right off the bat, no more than it was about Milliner being an impact player his rookie season, it's about giving young players a chance to get experience and work their way into being a part of our future during rebuilding years. That's what many impatient fans really seem to have a problem with, that we are rebuilding right now, and it's about assembling young talented players over time, not bringing in players in their twilight years to win some games this year. Milliner sucked for most of last year, but became one of the best CBs in the league by year's end. That's how you rebuild (and hopefully injuries won't mess that up every time).

    As far as Patterson vs Cromartie, the way Patterson was much better than Cro last year was because while he was injured and missed time, he at least played really well in the games where he was healthy. Cromartie was the worst CB in the NFL last year and while his injury played a role in that, considering that he was 30, there is no science to predict how much of that was due to injury and how much was due to age. So some people would rip on Idzik no matter what he did, using hindsight. If Idzik resigned Cromartie, and Cromartie was terrible this year, then the backseat driving would be in the opposite direction. Finally, take into account Cromartie's terrible practice habits and the way he clashed with coaches, do you really want that kind of thing around young CBs you are trying to develop? The Jets were willing to put up with that kind of stuff when he was in his prime and part of their big picture, but I can certainly see why they don't want to anymore now that he's just a stop-gap thing.


    Well again, I would be willing to judge a GM on say 4 years of draft picks as a whole, because over 4 years, you'd figure the random nature of the draft would even itself out somewhat, and a guy who makes solid decisions would be rewarded, but for a single given pick? No way in hell. There are tons of picks like Geno in the NFL, where a team might not be completely sold on a QB prospect but still make the pick because it's such a central position. And you know what, many times teams get burned, but it's still the right thing to do, because you can't win if you don't play. We know Idzik wasn't super high on Geno, since he obviously passed on him not once but twice in the first round, but in 2nd round with nobody at QB, it's a no-brainer. That's just life, sometimes you make good decisions and they don't work out. That's exactly why GMs typically get several years on the job, because only then you can really get a good idea of how effective they are.

    Was losing their top 3 CBs (now 4) to injury part of the plan? Was Geno not working out at all part of the plan? Was NFL screwing us with the schedule and refs part of the plan? Building a team is not a linear one direction process, it's dealing with a very dynamic situation where things are constantly changing and doing your best within that context. Win-Loss record is not a good way to judge a team from one year to another, because obviously injuries, schedule, and circumstances play a huge role in that. The Broncos are much better this year than last year (with DeMarcus Ware, Talib, and Von Miller healthy), but if Peyton gets injured, they can easily finish with a bad record. So what does that mean? Nothing. Instead of that, I look at the actual state of the team, without unrealistic expectations. And what do I see? I see Idzik rebuilding one of the worst skill player groups on offense into a really good one in just over a year: we went from Holmes, Hill, Kerley, Cumberland and Greene to Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Amaro and Ivory. I see him rounding out our D-Line with Richardson and turning it into one of the elite young Lines in the league. I see him establishing the beginnings of our next O-Line core with guys like Aboushi and Dozier. I see him turning a salary cap hell situation into one we were are one of the best teams when it comes to the cap, have money to spend on players we like, and have flexibility. Say an elite QB becomes available next year or an elite pass rusher, guess what, we can dump Harvin's contract and Kerley's is only guaranteed for one year or so, so we are ready to make moves when they become available. All of this suggests to me that we definitely need to give Idzik more time.
     
  8. NYCriminal

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    GangGreenBlues is still in homer mode. Too funny. So, a guy who plays through injury and doesn't miss a game, probably in part because the Jets did not have anybody better to put out there, is somehow a worse contributor to the team than someone who also gets hurt but only plays six games. You can't make it up!

    And anyway the Jets OBVIOUSLY were wrong to conclude Cromartie could not get over his injury and contribute this year. It was not merely a change of scenery that helped him to play so well for Arizona, although that probably helped.

    Face it. Idzik blew it replacing Cro with Patterson.
     
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    again why I must I answer the same crap points every time but here we go again
    you bring in a corner in Patterson that has played how many games in the last 2 yrs the answer is 8 games 8 games out of 24 and this is the great answer for helping two injury plague corners another injury plagued corer

    receiver for the 1 millionth time he could have had saunders, tate, jackson for the same price as harvin now to help a young struggling qb from the start of the season. I have o problem with the trade for harvin but the timing of the move stinks and the reeks of desperation.

    I have no problem building through the draft but he took 12 picks from this years draft and they have been cut as in no longer with the team so if you are building through the draft wouldn't these players still be on the roster? That is the biggest issue coupled with the team being worse then last year talent wise due top the GM's incompetence or negligence either way he should be fired for that alone. Why is this so hard for people to see defend to high heaven but don't spit in the wind and tell me it is raining. The guy has failed THIS YEAR AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TEAM THE FANS AND THE COACH AND STAFF HE IS ABOUT TO GET FIRED. You may want to give him 4 years but most people with common sense know crap when they see it, please stop defending him and trying to make an argument for his moves because his moves sucked and the proof is on the field.
    You want to defend 18 with a poor talent on the field go directly to the man responsible for it the GM.

    I hope they get 50 billboards just so the world can see the moron for what he is
     
  11. displacedfan

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    Yeah because the media never covers the Jets and their struggles. If Woody actually lets this influence his decision making, he automatically becomes the worst sports franchise owner in NY, a city that has Dolan AND Wilpon
     
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  12. GangGreenBlues

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    Yeah, a guy who played 6 good games is better than a guy who played 16 terrible games.
     
  13. NYJFOREVER

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    jets suck ass


    edit - friend stole my laptop :|
     
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  14. Big Blocker

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    Truly, yours is an awful, awful post.

    You don't get it, and I am now convinced you never will.
     
  15. deathstar

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    He is a terrible GM.

    Our GM Dennis Hickey in 1 year has plugged many holes...

    Your GM is 2 years has made MORE holes and problems for the team.

    If someone sucks, it's better to cut lose early.
     
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  16. nyjunc

    nyjunc 2008 TGG Bryan Cox "Most Argumentative" Award Winn

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    that is TBD, it's still very early for both.

    your GM didn't have many holes to plug and let's not get ahead of ourselves, you guys looked like a playoff lock last year and folded so crow when you do something.
     
  17. Faux machine

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    His 1994 documentary, Baseball, was amazing.
     
  18. LongIslandBlitz

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    the real reason people hate Idzik is because he is the reason Rex will be fired and a lot of people really are not ready to see that happen.I don't care anymore Fire everyone
     
  19. NYCriminal

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    Our fanbase is so damn embarrassing.
     

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