Would Woody Pay Jim Harbaugh $10 MM to coach ??

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  1. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Im not saying that there arent other coaches out there that are better than Rex. Obviously Rex isnt the best coach in the league and has no mind when it comes to offense. But if Im choosing Id rather have the guy that is great at coming up with defensive schemes instead of the guy that has an idea about both sides of the ball but is average.

    As bad as our defense has been this year I honestly think it would be much much worse if it wasnt for Rex's gameplans.

    Limited means to blitz and a horrible secondary. On paper this defense should be giving up over 40 points a game.
     
  2. JetsUK

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    I wouldn't want Harbaugh as the coach of the Jets
     
  3. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Good post.

    Harbaugh is a BB type , who cares if he is abrasisive with his players . We need results from a dramatically different approach. No buddy buddy anymore . They ALL need a kick in the ass!!!!!!
     
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  4. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but fun locker rooms are for High School players not high priced professionals!
     
  5. JetsUK

    JetsUK Well-Known Member

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    but high priced professionals need yelling at by a drill sergeant type in order to perform?
     
  6. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    Players are going to do what they want though. You arent gonna tell guys that make millions of dollars whats what. You can do that in high school, you can do that in college to an extent. But not in the pros.

    Things went south very quickly for Harbaugh because of that.

    Like I said in a previous post, you arent gonna give guys who've been told they're great their entire adult lives, the third degree.

    Doesnt work at this level anymore.
     
  7. NYJetsO12

    NYJetsO12 Well-Known Member

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    Look at this mess...of course they do! Rex and Idzik show that no accountability is being rewarded. They need someone to yell at them because they play like undisciplined children . There are no punishments .....
     
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  8. NYJetsO12

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    Disagree. Check the BB method and Parcells. If players have no fear and respect for Coaches they can get away with tanking every game!!!!! I laugh when I hear commentators report how they love Rex so much the players go all out for him . Have you seen anyone go "all out " collectively the last 7 games ? They go all out to cash their pay checks that's it. LOL Obviously, a tougher stance MUST be instilled or you get this undisciplined, uncaring crew.
     
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  9. irishwhip03

    irishwhip03 Well-Known Member

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    But those are two pretty extreme cases. I dont think Harbaugh has anywhere near the level of respect from his players as BB and Parcells did. Plus they coached 2 dynasties. San Fran has had some success but nothing to that extent.

    Parcells players hated him. But they respected him. And in my opinion I dont think players have the same type of mindset toward the game as they did even 10 years ago during the Patriot dynasty. If you're a coach you cant chastise a player. If you do its a huge story because the media attacks it, the players agent gets involved, the player pouts and all that nonsense.

    Maybe Harbaugh's way is the right way. But it wont work today cause players are babies.
     
  10. MexicanJet

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    He should... Let him pick HIS QB in the draft or free agency or whatever....

    Right the ship before we get worse than the Hess and Kotite era.
     
  11. displacedfan

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    I'm iffy on Harbaugh.

    Proven to be a good coach, but you have to be really pissing off your FO if they want to get rid of you after 3 great seasons.
    I also don't trust HC/GM to do both jobs well. I don't like the combo and especially don't like it for a HC trying the first time.
    He is a top notch coach though. I just don't like the idea of him doing it all here.

    If he just wants to coach, I'm all for it.

    thinking about it more, I'm hesitant to believe he pisses off all his players. I'm not sure if that's true, or the FO trying to leak things to make their decision to let him go seem more plausible. Always hard to tell especially form the outside..
     
  12. Geno007

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    Yeah he would had chased Revis and resigned Cro and you know what I bet we would be a hell of a lot better team also.
     
  13. Run_N_gun10

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    Before I hired Harbaugh, I would hire the 49ers GM.
     
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    $10 million? Why not $20 or $30 million a year if you are going to speculate on over paying for him. Nobody is going to give Harbaugh $10 million per year.

    Woody should pay whatever it takes but that will be less than $10 million so what is the point if stating a specific amount? Are you suggesting that if Harbaugh would take $7 million Woody should give him $10 million anyways?

    Just stupid.
     
  15. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    The guy took has taken his team to 3 straight NFC Championships and a Superbowl. He has the 2nd most wins in history of the NFL, over the course of his first three seasons as head coach. Doesn't his historically momentous success over the course of his first three seasons in the NFL make it just a tad bit silly to summarily claim that he "isn't suited" for the NFL?


    NFL history is replete with disciplinarians who have won big. Players coaches? Not so much. I'm not saying a team can't win with a players coach, but NFL history is pretty clear on which type of coach is more likely to win Superbowls.
     
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    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    This just isn't fair or accurate. Rex took over a team that wen't 9-7 in its previous season (after starting 8-3), Harbaugh took over a team that had become a perennial loser and was 5-11 in its previous season.




    I guess I don't have a brain, because based on their respective track records, the notion that Rex is definitively "more suited" to be an NFL head coach than Jim Harbaugh is utter lunacy to me.


    The same basic indictment could be made of Parcells after he unceremoniously left a Patriots team that he just took to the Superbowl. Coaches have egos and they have fallouts with front offices/GMs/owners. It happens.

    Rex Ryan: 43-46, 2 AFC Championship game appearances and four straight non-winning, non-playoff years since. (1-8 so far in his sixth season as head coach)

    Jim Harbaugh: 40-15-1, 3 straight NFC Championship game appearances, and one Superbowl appearance. (4-4 so far in his fourth season)

    That is the whole picture.
     
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  17. The 1985er

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    He sucks based on one bad year?
     
  18. slimjasi

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    Actually, yes, a lot of times they do.
     
  19. slimjasi

    slimjasi Well-Known Member

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    But, you really want to hang on to Rex, huh?
     
  20. 101GangGreen101

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    2 seasons, 2 drafts, 20 or so picks, 2 impact players from those classes. I can make the assessment that he sucks. If we want a chance at Harbaugh a new GM has to come with him. Can't imagine Idzik and Harbaugh teaming up.
     

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