I agree, which is why I think Mariota SHOULD be the pick. However, the spread is what makes him not a slam dunk pick. You can try to look past the spread, but you're now extrapolating his abilities to areas that they've never seen, if that makes sense. Whereas when you have a guy who's in a pro offense (let's go with Cook), you're interpolating what he can improve upon. Interpolation is always an easier thing to have a grasp on. I don't think the Kaepernick comparisons are ill-founded. I think those are good comparisons. I think he has a higher ceiling than Kaep and throws a better ball. I also love his character and reports of his work ethic. It's hard not to root for him even if he ends up on a different team. Based on that, I'll gladly take the higher risk extrapolation knowing the potential is there. As for Geno, I was vehemently against taking him in Round 1. Once Round 2 rolled around, my thoughts were how could you pass him up? Though I was also long over Sanchez at that point and just wanted to see a changing of the guard more than anything else. After two years, I'm wising up and saying I want that cerebral QB back there. I think Mariota has that. I don't think Winston does. You can't rest on ability in the NFL. And I don't like the idea of Cooper for two reasons: (1) I don't see the same freak ability of a Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald of yesteryear, so I don't want to use a high pick on a WR unless you're getting that, (2) I think if we can sign Harvin to a deal similar to Decker's, am I crazy to like the combo of Harvin/Decker/Kerley/Amaro as our primary receiving corps?
I do like Cooper but not that high and no WAY before a QB of IMHO better ability. He's not even Sammy Watkins in my view. I think there will be guys at the top of round 2 that will be very close to Cooper in terms of success at the NFL level and I'm just not passing up a franchise QB for a WR, no matter how good he is. Give me Mariota and the best WR at the top of round 2 way before Cooper and the best QB at the top of round 2. _
I have one other idea that might not even be realistic (and I said the same thing last year), but here it goes: I would trade a halfway decent draft pick for Brock Osweiler. I believe he's got one year left on his rookie deal. I'd give the kid a shot if Denver's willing to part ways with him. I liked him going into that draft, and he's been behind the greatest tutor in history for a couple years. I think he's incredibly intriguing, for the right price. And Denver might have no interest in dealing him anyway. But everyone wanted to go after Cousins at one point...I would be MUCH more interested in giving Osweiler a shot.
He's also more prone to turnovers and has too big a head for New York. Mariota is much more accurate and idk why you consider him a first-read guy. The system does not define the player. Just because he's stuck in a system doesn't mean it is all he is capable of producing in. Mariota is poised. That's definitely not problem. He does not have an injury history as far as I know,
As i said Mariotta will be picked higher then winston but by what i watched from both if i didnt know anything off the field of both or their way of carrying themselfs i belive winston is a better QB right now, maybe mariotta excells him later on.
I just don't know how you could watch and come to the conclusion that Winston is better. Even that is a stretch. Maybe last season, but it's been pretty clear who the best QB in college football is this year.
Winston is going to be really good, the issue is his immaturity, but the guy can play and will be able to play in the NFL.
if we aren't talking about the immaturity issues (which are important) he is most likely #1 on everyone's draft board. he has everything you want coming from a QB
I just don't see it. Mariota is a better decision maker, more athletic, more intelligent, and has a much better attitude. Winston will definitely be a first round pick. He's the unquestioned #2, but I think Mariota is the prize.
I met this really really hot girl and if it weren't for her chlamydia I definitely would have banged her. _
i mean some of the things jameis has done are minuscule. i don't really care that he signed autographs or yelled "fuck her right in the pussy" at FSU's cafeteria. i also don't care that he stole crab legs what i do care about is the rape allegations because i don't know what to make of the whole situation
I don't disagree. None of those things IN ISOLATION (other than the alleged rape which we'll never know the truth) are that big of a deal. When you start to pile them up, however, it speaks to a pattern. What will your opinion be if he does ANOTHER miniscule thing? Cast it aside because in isolation it was miniscule? Folks said six months ago he needs to keep his nose clean. So he stood up on a table and yelled "fuck her in the cunt". Immature and not that big of a deal. Then signed over 1000 items for sale that is clearly against NCAA rules. That's not keeping his nose clean. _
You know what the sad thing is, if Rex stays, we will go ahead and draft another corner or defensive lineman in the draft. I still can't believe we passed on all these QB's and WR's last year. Mariotta or Winston. I don't care which one it is. Bring a top QB and draft a QB every year until you find your QB.
First off, if the Jets drafted Mariota next spring, I would be very, very amped. However I don't agree with your inference that Winston's work ethic is somehow lacking or isn't in the same league as Mariotta. Yes, Winston's shown himself to be a tool off the field, but I've not heard anything about any shortcomings when it comes down to applying himself while in uniform.
Completely agree. By all, accounts his football skills/smarts/work ethic/leadership top to bottom are exemplary. _
Yeah i guess you're right, it's not safe to assume he will change his behaviors. It's just unfortunate because I think he has all the franchise QB skills
