I'm sticking to my eyes. I feel like a lot of people are overrating him. Coop doesn't strike me as that special. Sammy Watkins, Calvin Johnson, Julio jones top 10. Coop is not. I don't care what Mel kiper and these draft gurus think. I don't like none of these receivers compared to last year's class but if I had to select I'd go with Kevin white and dorial green-beckham and those guys can be had outside of the top 20
Early, but I'll take a shot: RESIGN DL Muhammad Wilkerson (Extend 5/6 years) DT Damon Harrison (4/5 years) WR Jeremy Kerley (3/4 years) ILB David Harris (2/3 years) DL Leger Douzable (2/3 years) RB Bilal Powell (would like to bring back, but not confident he'll want to given his role) Dawan Landry (1 year) WR Greg Salas (1yr minimum deal) SIGN QB Brian Hoyer (3 years) WR Nate Washington / WR Kenny Britt / WR Brandon Lloyd / Josh Morgan (1 year) OG Mike Iupati (5 years) CB Byron Maxwell (4 years) DRAFT 1. Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama 2. Trae Waynes, CB, Michigan St / Ronald Darby, CB, Florida St 3. Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia 4-7: Would like to see an OT for depth and potentially as an eventual starter somewhere, a QB prospect, additional RB, ILB QB: Geno Smith / Brian Hoyer / Rookie / Matt Simms RB: Chris Ivory / Chris Johnson / Rookie WR: Amari Cooper / Nate Washington / Walt Powell WR: Eric Decker / Greg Salas WR: Jeremy Kerley / Rookie TE: Jace Amaro / Jeff Cumberland LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson LG: Oday Aboushi / Brian Winters C: Nick Mangold / Dalton Freeman RG: Mike Iupati/ Dakota Dozier RT: Breno Giacomini / Rookie RE: Muhammad Wilkerson NT: Damon Harrison / TJ Barnes DT: Sheldon Richardson / Leger Douzable OLB: Quinton Coples / Jason Babin ILB: Demario Davis / Nick Bellore ILB: David Harris CB: Byron Maxwell / Dexter McDougle / Darrin Walls CB: Dee Milliner / Trae Waynes FS: Antonio Allen / Jaiquwan Jarrett SS: Calvin Pryor / Dawan Landry
Cooper is a solid top ten player. I think you need to rethink your stance on Cooper. Cooper is clearly the most polished WR available for this draft. I've seen most all of Bama's games and Cooper rarely disappoints. Cooper isn't as "flashy" as some wide outs, but does everything extremely well. Anyone wanting DGB on their team has no sense of the reality of how important character and ethics is to the chemistry of a franchise. I'm a firm believer in high character players and would be pissed if we drafted players like JW and DGB. Haven't we learn anything from getting a selfish player like Santonio Holmes???
I wouldn't go that far, because Watkins is a more physically gifted player. Cooper does runs better routes and is a better blocker, so I can understand your meaning of "more polished". I just believe Watkins has more potential.
I agree with you to a certain extent, when it comes to DGB. We have to remember he's a 20 21 year old, and I'm sure teams will bank on the fact that he has learned his lesson, with the recent supension he is serving. There's a chance he matures, yes it's slim, but you never know.With that being said, I'd take Amari over DGB, because in my opinion he is the superior talent and has no character issues.
I understand he's still a young Kid, but they're many mature young Kids that the Jets can look at , drafting DGB is very risky. Jets can't afford many more mistakes drafting players. I'd pass on Him.
Now that we have Harvin maybe through 2015, I'd say WR takes a back seat to QB, OL and CB in the first round, unless we cut Harvin after 2014.
Harvin isn't a #1 WR. Spending money on a WR in Rd 1 with Decker and Harvin is a huge monetary investment.
That's why i can't see us taking one in the first unless Harvin is released before 2015. And 100% agree Harvin is not a WR1. He does not help our struggling RZ offense.
I still wouldn't mind Amari Cooper if he fell to us. But maybe we take someone like Kevin White or DGB in the 2nd round.
Harvin isn't a #1 WR, and if Cooper is the BPA when we're up to pick, we better be taking Cooper. Harvin doesn't eliminate us snagging (hopefully) a #1 WR this offseason, but he does eliminate the chance of us resigning Kerley (assuming we keep Harvin that is). That being said, If we're picking top-5, I don't see how Cooper would be the BPA.
For the record I'm all about value. If I feel player A is being judged as top 10 pick and the difference between him and player B is small I'm gonna go with player B especially if player B is getting a late first round 2nd round grade. Last year the difference between sammy Watkins (player A) and the next best receiver (Player B) was wide enough to make me want to invest a top 10 in him. However this is not the case with amari cooper. Let me be clear, I think cooper is a good talent. I just don't think from a value perspective he is worth a Top 10 pick. Top 10 to me is reserved for special out of this world talent. Like a Calvin Johnson, sammy Watkins, randy moss, Terrell Owens, Dez Bryant, larry Fitzgerald, Julio jones. Cooper is nice, but I just don't see using a top 10 pick on him when guys like kevin white and DGB are better value picks and can be had later. Btw this draft is so much weaker than last year's draft that I can see people siding with picking coop in the top 10. However, when you stack coop amongst wrs who are deserving of a top 10 pick in previous drafts you will not find coop up there amongst the rankings.
we gotta rebuild this line. won't be flashy but will pay dividends. then we can truly see if geno is our guy. if not, it'd be much easier to attract qbs to come here and play with good offensive weapons and a good line
Not hating on Watkins, the guy is going to be a star. The only thing Watkins has over Cooper is the physical build, the guy can run like a tailback after the catch. Hopefully acquiring Harvin does not stop us from looking at receiver this year.
Now we have Harvin and say we resign him, hypothetical 4th rd pick taken from us.... Rd 1. Todd Gurley.....still think his talent and character (yes he is a good teammate) are too good to pass up. Rd2. Stefon Diggs..WR UMD. He is a 5 star talent, broke his leg last yr, and plays on a bad team..but he is a stud, would be a nice outside WR to have. Rd3. Stephone Anthony MLB Clemson, just think David Harris Cap hit is too big at this pt. Anthony is the leader of the Clemson D. FA: Assuming we only have room for 1 big one, Mike Iupati and try and squeeze Brandon Flowers (CB) San Diego in there.. QB-Geno RB-Gurley/Ivory WR: Decker, Harvin, Stefone Diggs TE: Amaro and Cumberland OL: Brick, Iupati, Mangold, RG?, Giacomini DL: Richardsom, Snacks, WIlkerson LB: Coples, Davis-Anthony-Pace DB: Flowers, Allen, Pryor, Milner
Can people tune into the west Virginia vs Baylor game. It is on fox sports 1. Check out Kevin White. Guy is a bonafide stud. Big game thus far and the 2nd qtr just started. He's drawing tons of defensive pass interference calls and making big plays. I wont be surprised if mel kiper bumps Kevin white up in the draft. Much much better value than selecting amari cooper in the top 10
I like White, that last TD was sick. I don't want to overrate him because he plays in a WR friendly offense. Remember Stedman Bailey broke records with Geno and he's yet to make an impact. I'm not a scout so please take this with a grain of salt, but I think it's worth discussing. Obviously White is in the conversation as a late first round pick so probably out of our reach anyway.
Taking Gurley would be absolutely criminal. He's a great talent but how many playoffs has ADP been too? Barry Sanders? RBs are something you can draft every year but in the middle rounds. Just take a look at the rookie rushing leaders. Isaiah Crowell and Branden Oliver.
