Rex should get a contract extension right now...

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  1. Jets69

    Jets69 Well-Known Member

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    Time to move on, most on this board can't stop jizzing there pants over Rexs first 2 years, but since the team has been on a steady decline.
    Can't wait to see ESPN running wild with his firing, starting off with rex promising the Superbowl , love being a Jets fan
     
  2. Cman69

    Cman69 The Dark Admin, 2018 BEST Darksider Poster

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    Then given what our likely record will be at season's end, we should have a creampuff schedule next year. Now do you really think our Media driven Owner can simply tune out all the hysteria coming from both the media AND the Fanbase? Highly doubtful knowing his character. Don't forget, "you can never have enough Tebow". If both Idzik and Ryan comes back, I don't think it will matter one way or the other. Just another season without a championship will be the end result no matter who is coaching and driving this team. If by some miracle we can peek behind the veil of Idzik's mind and see the plan, it still might require another 4-5 years to complete so either way, the Status Quo means many more years before this team becomes relevant again. We'll tease, but that will be about it. We'll be the pretty girl with the great cleavage and the open top blouse wearing a chastity belt under her habit.
     
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  3. Red Menace

    Red Menace Well-Known Member

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    I don't hate Rex, and I do think he is a good DC, just not a good HC.

    I also like Idzik, And I think his approach will result in the Jets being a good team both on offense and defense, for the long term.

    My issue when looking at this picture is Rex, I feel he is the square peg trying to fit into the round hole.

    I think Idzik would like to do what Jerry jones did in Dallas, have a HC who oversees everything but is not directly involved with just one aspect of the game.

    He took the play calling away from jason garret, gave it to Bill Callahan, brought in marinlli as DC, but the ultimate decision within the game is made with Garret.

    Personally I don't think Rex can ever be that type of coach and so how does Idzik figure out how to fix the offense?

    Does he now have to interact with MM to determine what he needs as an OC or is it done as a staff?


    This year is done, we know that, but by adding Harvin and keeping him if he pans out, the foundation continues to be established.

    The other problem we have is Geno, in my opinion he is not the answer, when a QB cannot play from under center he should not even be on an NFL roster.

    I'm patient, I want to see how the end of this year pans out, however if Geno is still the QB next year, and Rex is the HC and MM is our OC it's going to be a similar year because the pieces to the puzzle have not changed.

    you still have a QB who cannot play from under center, a HC who only cares about one side of the ball and an OC who's limited to calling plays out of the shotgun formation, so it will be the same thing all over again with the exception of an easier schedule.
     
  4. Endlessly Counting

    Endlessly Counting Well-Known Member

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    Got it. I'll work with my reading comprehension;)
     
  5. Truth4U2

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    An indication of how low the bar has come that competing for a win deserves a badge. Jets are a mediocre team that is abject at 1-6. And game time coaching is at least partially to blame. Also, discipline is a long running problem that shows up on the field and off.
     
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  8. MontrealAlouettes

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    Rex isn't the reason this team continues to be irrelevant. It's been the same story regardless of the head coach or even GM. So yeah, I sympathize with Rex to a certain degree. But enough is enough; the team has gotten worse and worse under him, and even if it's not entirely his fault, his success isn't enough to make him untouchable.

    It's the same every year. Dumb, undisciplined football, poor preparation leading to an uphill battle after getting off to a bad start, almost criminal negligence of the offense, even his much loved defense continues to give up points at the worst moments. You can blame the secondary all you want, against both Detroit and San Diego they failed to stop the run at the most important moments.

    It's always someone else's fault. The GM, the OC. Yet we have had two GMs and three OCs, and the same problems remain. Stupid gimmick option plays on offense to kill drives? We keep seeing them under Rex, regardless of the OC. There might be a reason for that.

    Even the personnel issues, while I am not at all impressed by Idzik so far, we can fault Rex partially. You don't think Rex is the reason the Jets drafted Pyor? Or that they gambled on an injured corner from Maryland? Or that Kyle Wilson keeps getting chances because he's physical? Obviously the incompetence goes far beyond Rex but if you don't think he has played a significant part in all recent and mostly terrible drafts I don't know what to say.

    And Idzik has improved the offense, even if I don't understand his priorities at times. Ivory is much better than Greene, CJ is overrated but still a dual threat, this is an above average running back platoon and while the receivers are still mostly mediocre, there's at least some depth there. This is not a great team by any means but it isn't Oakland.

    When the schedule softens up and the Jets inevitably finish the season 7-9 or whatever, there's no moral victory, sorry. I wish Rex the best of luck, his players love him but if he's ever going to make it as a head coach he needs a smart management team that keeps him in line, something he will never get here. But not getting blown out is not enough.
     
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  9. Red Menace

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    championjets69 2008/2009 TGG Darksider Award Winner

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    Truth be told at this moment RR record is now under 500 in case U R unaware of that fact :mad:
     
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    The Rex nuthuggers are unbelievable. The guy could have 10 straight losing seasons but they would still want him back. They are just as bad as the Tebow followers.
     
  12. Truth4U2

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    LOL...OK that was funny. But I love God more; after all, He gave us Rex! :D
     
  13. Truth4U2

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    The latest major media analyst to come to Rex's defense, John Clayton of ESPN: (see video)
    http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/sto...-jets-coach-rex-ryan-calls-season-big-failure

    In summary, he says Rex is a "good coach", "the cards were stacked against him from the beginning, they didn't have the right CB combination", "Rex needed better players"... seemingly every day someone else in the media comes to Rex's defense (outside of the stupid, biased NY media), yet some on this board still think it's only the "Rex nuthuggers" (lol) here that continue to support him.
     
  14. Cman69

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    Lets give Rex 15 years at $5mil per year guaranteed for the entire contract. Works out to $75mil. Chump change to Woody. No incentive clauses, no pressure. All Rex would have to do is maintain 8-8 for the entire length of the contract so we would be "consistent". Sign me up for that!
     
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  15. Gunther

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    At least it would be consistency. Marvin Lewis may not win a championship with the Bengals, but it's obvious the man can coach. I don't know what the Bengals overall record is since he's been the coach, but I don't think Cincinnati has a problem with him. Belichick wasn't a hot prospect as coach as well. I don't think Rex is better or worse than any of the top coaches in the league. I just think some organizations have better front offices and a solid philosophy when it comes to football affairs. Too many people in here sound like regurgitated puppets for the media. They don't know shit except to kiss ass or throw the bum out. That is their philosophy and sadly many in here have picked up the same habits without thinking about where it's coming from.
    The teams that put up consistent wins have solid quarterbacks. They are hard to find, but that is the only fucking difference. Coaches have different philosophies, but it's the play of the Quarterback that keeps getting them contract extensions.
     
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    To have a solid quarterback, don't you need to be able to recognize one first? Most folks' beef with Rex (me included) is his inability to construct a modern NFL offense. He can devise plans to stop them, but doesn't have a f'n clue how to develop them so unless Rex has a stacked D, he's only gonna be marginally successful as a HC. Now Rex the DC? Whole different discussion.
     
  17. gustoonarmy

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    Yeah, It's fine to ridicule fans that aren't ready to throw in the towel just yet. I'm also laughing at you lot throwing yourselves off the cliff top.
    I really hope the CS and GM are here this time next year and you're all choking on humble pie.
     
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    Educate me here, so to be a HC you have to be proficient on both sides of the ball?
     
  19. Dreadmadseen

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    Botton line. If theres no talent then there's no talent. You can't make New York Strip from chopped liver. Don't blame the chef blame the one buying the groceries! That's just common sense.
     
  20. Red Menace

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    To be a good HC yes, to be a HC no.
     

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