coples played 36 snaps yesterday

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  1. IBLEEDGREEN17

    IBLEEDGREEN17 Well-Known Member

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    Coples played less snaps against the greater QBs. Rex has been using Coples more in run defenses.
     
  2. FJF

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    I think he will be a bryan thomas type lb at worst, and terrell suggs lite at best but probably somewhere in between
     
  3. nevbeats319

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    he is doing the same thing now if he was a 4-3 DE..he barly stands up and rushes....so i dont know where your coming up with this
     
  4. JetLifeLo

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    He's a pass rusher! Rex finally stopped sending the house every passing down so he wasn't needed as much, replaced by a DB. That's why he didn't play as many snaps as usual, u know how i know that? because i understand schemes and game plans, which coples didn't play a big part in. I said top 10 QB's because most top 10 QB's throw the ball a lot, others play with more balance, which would make coples more effective.
     
  5. wewantsapp

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    So DeCastro getting hurt at a Pittsburgh Steelers practice would have happened exactly the same had he been at a JETS practice?
    Sorry, but I stopped reading the post after that sentence.
     
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  6. N0samples

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    Desiring players who got injured because they wouldn't have gotten injured playing for the lucky NY Jets sounds very logical.
     
  7. tomdeb

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    What? So you mean that the jets drafted Coples number 1 because, according to you, he "plays better against non-top 10 Qbs" than "top 10 QBs?" According to you Coples "didn't play a part" against good QBs? Makes no sense to draft a guy so high if, according to you, he shines against the scrubs but rides the pine against "top ten QBs."
     
  8. JetLifeLo

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    Thats according to you. I said HE IS USED LESS AGAINST TEAMS WITH PASS HEAVY OFFENSES (WHICH MOSTLY HAVE TOP 10 QB'S) ! WE CLEARLY DONT HAVE THE DB'S TO MAN BLITZ ANYMORE AND COPLES HAS NO COVERAGE SKILLS, THEREFORE HE'S BEEN GETTING LESS SNAPS. IDK WHERE YOU ARE GETTING ALL THAT OTHER SHIT FROM. If u dont understand that then thats your problem. I never mentioned who he plays "good or bad" against, i mentioned who he plays "more or less" against. THINK bro.. stop posting just to debate, i see other people already broke down the same thing im now breaking down to you in my 3rd straight post in this thread.
     
  9. Footballgod214

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    Coples was drafted as a DT and moved to OLB to make room for Sheldon. The transition is a work in progress, but it is progressing.

    In hindsight if Rex knew then what he knows now (Sheldon) he may have taken someone else. We'll never know until Rex writes his book in 10 years.
     
  10. TonyMaC

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    i don't know if it was a simple as just wanting to make room for Richardson, maybe they honestly thought his skills were better used playing a predominately pass rushing role outside the tackles than being closer inside?

    I think its working fairly well so far, all things considered. the nature of the position has kept him from playing every down, and I suppose the idea of a first rounder not playing every down won't sit well with some, but so long as he's doing his job well and applying consistent pressure on the weak side that matters very little.
     
  11. FJF

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    rex worked him out at his pro day and ran him through lb drills. rex likes versatility,coples gives him lots of options.
    this is only a thread because of the o.p.'s dislike for rex, and for some reason he has picked coples as the major problem. like there isn't anything worse going on right now
     
  12. tomdeb

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    Your previous post started with the line "COPLES IS A PASS RUSHER!" Not a coverage linebacker, but a pure pass rusher. Then you claimed that only you "understand schemes and plans." Now read the bolded part above where YOU write "He is used less against teams with pass heavy offenses. And that makes sense? The guy, according to you, was drafted as a pass rusher, is a pass rusher , but, in your opinion, he correctly is NOT being used against pass heavy teams. ??????? No wonder you and Rex are so screwed up.
     
  13. N0samples

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    Coples was worked out as a linebacker. Rex knew from the start. Coples stood up sometimes as his rookie season progressed. So far it has worked, he is at worst a Calvin Pace 10+ year pro type but potentially Terrell Suggs part 2.

    PFF rated him as one of the most productive OLBs a couple weeks ago, don't know where he stands now. Stats aren't everything.
     
  14. N0samples

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    The game plan called for coples not pass rushing every play. Not sure what you don't understand.
    Forget what you think you know, that's what the plan called against manning on this occasion and it worked reasonably well.

    VS Brady you might see Coples rush way more.
     
  15. OverloadBlitz

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    That was actually one of the better game plans Rex made on D I agree with a lot of your posts in this thread. Coples was used a few times as like a bracket coverage press guy in base defense from what I saw, very genius as far as daring Manning to run the ball with only 3 down lineman a lot of the time. It almost worked we just needed the offense to pick up the slack a bit holding the Broncos to 24ish is a hard task for any defense.
     
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  16. JetLifeLo

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    Lol I claimed that only I know about schemes and game plans?? Really? Bro your football IQ sucks. We played Peyton manning.. He has multiple elite weapons, Rex didn't blitz a lot he wanted to contest the pass this game with less LB's and more DB's (a game plan). The d-line was bringing pressure on their own there was no need to have coples in blitzing all game when they have such a dominant pass game so we stayed more in a dime and nickel defense (defensive scheming). WHAT DONT YOU UNDERSTAND. No wonder Rex had the best defensive game against the broncos so far this year.

    You must have forgotten how limited our secondary is. If we had Real corners out there we'd go back to blitz heavy and only letting up that short pass only trusting our guys to hold their own. Right now we can't afford trust them to do that. We're gonna use less guys up front and probably screw up our rushing defense #s but so be it.
     
  17. tomdeb

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    Keep telling me how smart Rex is--it is easy to forget since the jets under Rex have WATCHED the playoffs the last three years and will certainly be doing the same this year. What don't YOU understand that the jets stink under Rex, or haven't you noticed?
     
  18. MaximusD163

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    Christ, it's tough to read this thread. Coples is very talented, and not being misused. If there is anyone who thinks Coples is being misused that watches the all 22 cam, go ahead and let me know. If you did, you'd see he has a more diverse role than any player on our team. He plays 4-3 DE on the weak side and strong side all the time, he plays 3-4 OLB on the weak side and strong side, he plays 3-4 DE, and he plays 4-3 DT. He also sometimes plays a zone where he lines up wide to bump receivers and covers the flats. When he lines up as an OLB, he usually rushes but sometimes drops into a zone coverage. He rushes on stunts and from different gaps from his OLB position as well. Often his role is to contain the edge of the pocket while Wilkerson and Richardson collapse it from the inside. Teams frequently run away from him and double team him. If there is 1 single knock on him that I can see based on watching him from the all 22 cam, it's that he could have a better motor. I'm not saying that because it was a knock on him coming out, I'm saying it because I see it with my own eyes. Coples was never a speed rusher, ever. What he has is good straight line speed, and excellent power. Mo had a better 3 cone drill time and 20 yard shuttle than Coples, so elite quickness is not what Coples possesses. He doesn't beat tackles with speed rushes like a 4-3 End typically does, he is an excellent bull rusher and can anchor the run powerfully. He doesn't have amazing burst, but once he gets going he is has good speed, this is why starting standing up is beneficial for his skill set.
     
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  19. nevbeats319

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    BOOOOOM! great post dude…your spot on to the max….i watch coples on every snap (he is my fav player)…your 100% and i agree, he is the most versatile piece on the d..he plays all over the place
     
  20. Longsuffering88

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    I went to supermarket before game to get beer chips and milk and Coples was on the damn milk carton
     

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