oh well in THAT case. 5-11 it is. what a great coach, 5-11 as a floor. He should put that on a resume
Awesome let's stat pad on really bad teams at the end of the year to prove Rex is the right man for the job. BTW Tony Dungy STILL got fired from the Bucs (to change the philosophy and help the offensive players). Maybe we need to find our own Gruden.
That actually should be on a resume. It's easy to let things go when times get tough and you can't catch a break. Rex doesn't do that. He's still out front fighting even when he's embarrassed by the results, and he's not doing it in an angry clusterfuck the way a lot of coaches do when things go wrong. The talent isn't there at the moment mainly because the offense can't get unwound and the defense is being asked to do too much. The Jets are still going to find a way to win another 6 games this season. The schedule gets easier after the Pats and Rex isn't going to let the team collapse into a fetal curl at any point. He's going to go out fighting and his guys are going to be right behind him. Just watch.
Keep Idzik, Fire Rex. I would evaluate our drafting and scouting departments though because the past few drafts have been unacceptable and I think guys like Bradway need to be let go. The drafts have not panned out and done well at all and this has been a common occurance with Bradway as the Senior Director of Scouting.
Peyton Mannings and Andrew Lucks don't grow on trees ... who knows when the next can't miss prospect comes out... even so, the Jets will miss the train like we do every time ...
our GM has been on the job for less than 2 seasons, we don't know anything except that he gave us one of the best cap situations in the league.
We revamped the scouting department and still let this guy stay on. Woody prob wants him on there for the foreseeable. Until Woody gives full personnel control to someone worthy of the title - it will be the same thing over and over again. At least demote the freaking bastard (again). Woody is pulling some James Dolan bullshit. Woody needs to hire a VP of Football Operations. A complete new revamp of the FO will follow.
What has he done to give you confidence? Draft bad players? Cut them after 2 weeks? This guy gives me no confidence. In the 2nd yr, there should be something to build on by now. This guy is going to fuck the team up even more because he'll be in full panic mode this off-season. Cut ties before it's too late.
I still think Idzik will keep his calm demeanor about in free agency and still view the draft as being important, but I too am leery about him and his scouts/draft evaluators after the past 2 drafts and that won't go away until a solid if not good draft class happens and I can't blame anyone who is hesitant about this FO when it comes to the draft.
I haven't see a draft I really liked out of the Jets since 2006. I thought they got good value in 2013 but it wasn't clear that they got good players after Milliner and Richardson.
No confidence in anyone in the FO. Jets couldn't draft a good receiver if they had access to a freaking time machine.
2011 wasn't a bad draft class. Mo Wilk is a really good DE, Kenrick Ellis is not a bad situational NT in the 3rd round, Bilal Powell has done some positive things as a 4th round pick for the team, Jeremy Kerley has far outplayed his 5th round standing and Greg McElroy got to see some NFL time and even got a start as a 7th round pick. The Scotty McKnight pick was terribad though but at least that's a 7th round pick.
There is my concern. Next year the Jets will have a TON of money to spend between the rollover money, expiring contract dead money, cutting players due to make a lot of money etc. I have seen nothing yet that shows that Idzik is capable of handling that amount of $$ and putting together a proper NFL roster. His two drafts have by and large sucked. Richardson is really the only player that has been a pleasant surprise. The others have played (if not hurt) below their draft status or just sucked outright and were cut. Once that money is spent this off-season its going to impact the Jets for years to come as they won't have anywhere near the flexibility they have approaching them this off-season. My feeling is that the fate of the franchise for the next 5 years or so will be determined this off-season. I want a seasoned and respected NFL personnel guy heading this up, not someone who was an assistant coming from a club that is now doing well. Who's to say it was their GM and Idzik instead of Pete Carroll leading the way in their draft? Carroll came from college, knew the players strengths and weaknesses better than most NFL guys could possibly know. Why does Woody have blind faith that Idzik was someone responsible for their draft picks? I don't and nor should Woody. Woody can't be that stupid and I'm sure he's been told privately how important this off-season is to the franchise going forward. If Idzik screws it up I bet what remains of PSL value will be zero and they'll be in a Raiders type situation where they just get rid of PSL's going forward because no one will want to come watch a pathetic team that is saddled with contracts for 4-5 years to come.
Yes, and i made similar points earlier in this thread. I would add I also mentioned that if Woody does not assure Idzik that next year will not be his last, then Idzik will be encouraged to spend all that money for short term results, not medium to long term. the irony there is he has NO track record of spending a ton of money effectively. Either Idzik gets fired at the end of this year, or we aer stuck with him for probably three more. As much as I hate Johnson, I would not want to be in his shoes once this season ends. He'll hear a bunch of people saying you can't fire your GM after only two years. but he should be reluctant to extend him through 17. And then the worst thing he could do is "compromise" and tell him he has a year to year - prove it deal. Watch him pick the prove it deal.
The only thing Woody has to do is what's in the best interest of the Jets franchise and everything else will take care of itself. He needs to shut out all of the media and fans and make the right hire to be the architect of this franchise. If Idzik isn't part of the future then Woody should have no qualms about cutting him. It's not like he's done this great job where it'd be a tough call. His early returns as GM are lukewarm, at best.
Tilting at windmills again Junc, you go live in your world. The rest of us know what Woody is capable of. Tebow had NOTHING to do with football and EVERYTHING to do with PSLs. The guy was a football pariah, the only reason to bring him in is the same reason circuses bring in freaks to the freakshow. To sell tickets. Tim Tebow was the equivalent of the two-headed woman at Woody Johnson's freakshow. Thinking he was brought in for football reasons in incredibly naive and quite frankly not something I'd expect from you. Same thing with Favre except Favre could play football. If Favre were brought in for football reasons he would have been here on a long term front loaded contract. _
