Milliner Injury

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  1. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Cro's Sport Science was done after he was already in the league and fully healthy smarty.
     
  2. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    Even better. 21 years old Milliner is a hair better athletically than 28 years old Cro 6-7 years in the league. Again you got me.
     
  3. MaximusD163

    MaximusD163 Well-Known Member

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    Actually 27, and generally mid late 20's are considered an athlete's peak years.
     
  4. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    He's done for the year.
     
  5. Footballgod214

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    He was the top rated DB in the NFL over the last 4 games of 2013. I guess maybe that?
     
  6. nyjetsknicks247

    nyjetsknicks247 Well-Known Member

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    This is a what have you done for me lately league and dude cant even stay on the field
     
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  7. NJBeliever

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    That type of logic (relying on an extremely small sample size) is what led to the signing of Dimitri Patterson. You can't ignore the mediocrity and red flags that surround a nice 4-6 game hot stretch.
     
  8. legler82

    legler82 Well-Known Member

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    This should at least put an end to the "…when Milliner is back…" posts.
     
  9. jcass10

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    I have little doubt that he is (or was) going to be a good player. But if you're never healthy, what good does it serve?

    I guess we move on with the expectation that we cant rely on him, and everything we get from him is gravy
     
  10. mattyd99

    mattyd99 Well-Known Member

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    I remember at the draft the experts talked of how tough he is because he always played through injuries and yet never missed a game. Well so much for that. The body can only take so much and I'm not sure at this point if the guy does ever stay healthy for us.
     
  11. joe

    joe Well-Known Member

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    Peanut brittle. Another hole in the roster needing to be addressed successfully. This rebuild is starting to look more like 1 step forward, 2 steps back. And mainstays Mangold, Brick & Harris are not getting any younger.
     
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  12. Acad23

    Acad23 Well-Known Member

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    Back?

    When was he here?
     
  13. jilozzo

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    This injury, plus the likelihood that our current corners won't become even serviceable, will force the jets hand so CB will be very high on the draft list next year......AGAIN

    Maybe not with the likely top 10 pick we'll have but no later than the second rounder.

    Really painted ourselves into a corner last offseason, so to say.
     
  14. Footballgod214

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    I know. With a small sample size it can happen to anyone....like all the times Kyle Wilson was the best DB in football.
     
  15. Hobbes3259

    Hobbes3259 Well-Known Member

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    Yep...
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    Hmmm...drafting repeatedly injured players high...great...

    and FWIW, Sabotaging the 5 overall pick..ahem, and compounding the Kyle Wilson pick 22 overall...Idzik has fucked this team at two valuable positions...In terms of CBprobably with Rexs help.

    Where Idzik should have listened to Rex (Sanchez) he was wrong...and where he should have told Rex NO!!! NO FUCKING WAY!!!! he was wrong....
     
  16. Hobbes3259

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  17. nyjetsmets89

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    Milliner went 9th and Wilson went 29th and was picked by Tannenbaum. Ahem
     
  18. GoldenShowers

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    Hated the pick at the time, and obviously hate it now.

    You don't trade away the best player on your team so that you can waste a top 10 pick on a guy who is the product of a Nick Saban defense. Guy was nothing special at all, but once again bc Mel Kiper "projected" him somewhere, people got excited by the pick. It was a fucking waste then and has proven to be a waste now.
     
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    There is a difference between peak performance and peak athletic ability. While performance in football and many other sports generally peaks in the late twenties, this is due to factors such as refined technique, improved mental abilities, development of low-velocity kinematics (max strength, endurance). The improvement of these traits can overcome any slight drop-off in athletic ability. The less dependent the sport/position is on pure athletic ability, the later an athlete may perform at a peak level.

    When considering a cornerbacks athleticism, we are looking at high-velocity, power markers like sprinting and jumping. In high-power output sports, peaks are reached in the early twenties for those with sufficient years of training (the younger one begins training the likelier they will be able to achieve the highest percentage possible of their genetic potential). In weightlifting, one of the most explosively demanding sports, the average age of Olympic champions has gone from the late twenties to below 25 and falling. Highly explosive sports such as tennis and sprinting also have peak ages in the low twenties. Something to consider is that the nature of these sports caters to retirement at earlier ages than less explosive sports for many possible reasons beyond the scope of this post - For example, junior lifters are hitting at about 97% of the record weights of senior class lifters, this means that in order to reach champion level a lifter must already have almost a decade of training before even entering the senior level. Perhaps if Olympic lifters remained competitive into their 30's the data would be different. However, the research suggests that the higher the power demand , the younger the peak occur.

    Here is an interesting research paper on the topic http://www.ucsur.pitt.edu/files/schulz/JofGeronSchulzCarnow1988.pdf Table 8 shows that peak performance age of men for running short distances is 23.
     
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  20. Big Blocker

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    Yes, we have to remember that Milliner was supposed to replace Revis. Obviously there was a risk taken there, as there is anytime you try and replace a proven player with a draft pick. So much for going younger. It works sometimes. It does not work all the time.
     

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