This is really not an issue we need to be worried about at this point. If evidence emerges that many infected individuals have moved to North America then it becomes a problem. Now, ask yourself how somebody who is infected with Ebola would actually make that trip. It's a miracle that a couple of cases have managed to make it into the country at this point. By the time the person knows they are sick they are generally so sick that traveling is not an option. So the people who get here are the people who were infected but not yet symptomatic at the time they traveled. That's a very narrow window to pass through to wind up here, which is why so few have arrived in that state. If the ER hadn't sent the one guy who showed up on their doorstep saying words like "flu, Liberia, Ebola?" home with antibiotics the risk would have been minimal. By the time they admitted him two days later he was bleeding from his nose and barely coherent. At that point "flu, Liberia, Ebola?" registered. Earth to ER in Dallas - we have an outbreak of Ebola. When people come in to your ER saying the word Ebola and telling you they are from Liberia you need to make damn sure it *isn't* Ebola before you send them home with nice little bottle of purple pills.
For America, it is pretty ho-hum news. For Africa, it clearly isn't, but that's not we're talking about here. Medical screenings at transportation ports aren't likely to stop Ebola from arriving over here. That's just for show. If you're symptomatic (i.e. contagious), you're not traveling anywhere. If you're not yet symptomatic, you're probably not getting caught by a medical screen. Other things will stop it from spreading here the way it is spreading in Africa, though. If it's here, it's going to have a hard time spreading because people are more informed, there are effective avenues for spreading that information over here, and because we have the infrastructure in place to contain it. Which isn't to say that it's cool if "only" a few people die from it here. I'm just saying it's almost assuredly not going to be an epidemic in America. It will show up here now and again and it will be contained... but the best bet is to go stop the spread of it in Africa. I'd rather place the concern where it belongs. I mean, which do you think will cause more deaths in America over the next year? Ebola or MRSA?
Its airborne obviously. In a matter of time a lot of people will be showing symptoms of it. (It takes 21 days)
The outbreak in Sierra Leone has apparently overrun the healthcare resources there. The NY Times is reporting that the government of Sierra Leone has adopted a policy of home health care for Ebola patients and is haphazardly distributing protective gear and supplies. Liberia is reported to be close to this policy change as well. If this actually happens then the number of cases in Sierra Leone and Liberia will likely go up a hundredfold over the next several months. You can't put Ebola patients in beds at home in an urban environment without creating the potential for an ongoing wildfire that burns unchecked in the population. If it is true that Sierra Leone is doing this then the only logical response by outside authorities is to create as tight a quarantine around the country as possible. No flights in or out. No ships allowed to dock or leave. Checkpoints at the borders and at key strategic points inside the country to prevent the transportation of the infected outside the borders. I'm assuming that Sierra Leone is going to announce that they've opened new quarantine camps for Ebola patients within the week. They're going to lose sovereignty otherwise.
You are wrong obviously but that is nothing new. http://en.starafrica.com/news/un-mi...ation-no-threat-that-ebola-is-airborne-2.html
No actually I am right, explain how 5 people wearing hazmat suits get it? if you are wearing a hazmat suit you are not exposed to the body or the bodily fluids. Explain. And remember when I reported on Eric Pianka, "Dr. Death" I called him, when he said that we need to kill off 90% of the population through the method of airborne Ebola? remember when I posted about that years ago? well fast forward now we are here.....
http://rense.com/general70/massdeath.htm And he got a standing ovation when he made this speech......
If you are wearing a hazmat suit, you shouldn't get it even if it's airborne, so unless you're arguing that the virus can teleport through materials, I'm not sure what your point is. Look at the flu. The flu has a very low kill rate, but is definitely airborne. The flu kills tens of thousands of people every year, but millions upon millions get it. Ebola has a kill rate between 50-75% (some report it as high as 90%). If ebola was airborne, you'd have waaaaaaaaay more than 4,000 deaths in Africa right now. You'd have more than just 5 health care workers getting sick. The far more sensible answer is that people fucked up... even if it's only a little bit. With most bacteria/viruses, you are granted some room for error. Forget to put your gloves on when seeing a patient? You're probably going to be okay, most of the time. BSL4 workers have to do more than just wear hazmat suits when working with Ebola -- the gowning and de-gowning process is rigorous, systematic, and requires dozens of hours of training and certification before you're even allowed to try the real thing. But the BSL4 workers also have the advantage of knowing what they're dealing with. Health care workers don't always know what the patient has, and they have not had the years and years of experience putting protocols in place to minimize risk. (I know it's less exciting for the loons to have that be the answer, but it's far more likely.)
Makes sense being they did not diagnose him with Ebola and sent him home, it only makes sense that she didn't take precautions.
The CNN article says "The nurse was involved in Duncan's second visit to the hospital, when he was admitted for treatment, and was wearing protective gear as prescribed by the CDC: gown, gloves, mask and shield, Varga said." So did she suck his dick or kiss him?
so either this woman didn't follow the procedures well or the procedures don't actually work. Hopefully it's the former but if I'm running the CDC I'm doing a thorough review of the process and tightening up any weakness asap.
O ok im sorry, ill work on getting it. Well hold up, when I posted that it was airborne I was under the impression that the police officer had gotten it to (he did not touch a body or any bodily fluids) Thats where my basis of it it being airborne came from, I had not followed up on the story and apparently he does not have Ebola.
And to say its not airborne is foolish, you cant find a soul who would confidently say they would stand in the same room with a patient. It hasn't been 21 days yet for most of these cases so I believe there are people walking around with this virus and its only a matter of time before many people start showing symptoms of it. I hope Dr. Pianka isnt right about this whole thing, because if he is its going to get ugly.
